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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I’ve always thought the best way to fix the lottery would either be to

    A. Flatten the odds so the bottom 8? get the same odds. Then let playoff teams all draft from worst to best to start the second round

    B. Give the play in teams the same odds for the top pick as the bottom teams
     
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  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It is amazing how close the 8-11 draft positions are right now.

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  3. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    You have to punish teams getting the top picks somehow. Punish the gms. Mandatory firing
     
  4. Freshtown

    Freshtown Well-Known Member

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    need to get to 8
     
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  5. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    You know what I find funny and sad is I see people complain that the Raptors just kind of gave up and STILL almost beat this team BTW just for you silly people who want them in the play in. My point is the last 2 or 3 seasons the Blazers were the fucking KINGS of tanking by not playing Dame when he could have played in his last season. When the Blazers just DNP'ed players like it was cool with "fake" / questionable injuries but now people like Nate and I was watching the post game show last night and those three clowns were talking about it too and acting all WTF.

    If you want to be taken serious then stop acting all dejected and offended when a team does a better job of tanking then the Blazers maybe you should be upset at Billups and Sleepy Joe instead but you do you -- Cry baby mode
     
  6. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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  7. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Is there any correlation between tanking and the seemingly softening of the NBA? Players resting more, flopping more, etc? Is it all part of a larger issue with regards to behavior and style of play? There doesn't seem to be the drive to win now. If you aren't leading the pack, you should be at the bottom, seems to be the mentality in everything and I disagree. I think persevering through mediocrity and working harder than the person next to you to win that a starting spot, to jump ahead in the standings, to earn that raise, is a lost ethic.
    It seems the sense of entitlement is larger than ever before and I think the results are those not on the top, feel they cant compete at all and just give up instead of digging in.

    Jordan couldn't get passed the Pistons, but they didnt tank. They hit the gym. they worker harder than any other team. Yes they made a great trade to get Pippen on draft night, but it wasn't a top pick they traded. They simply worked thier asses off.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This team was so close to being done with tanking but they pulled out too soon.

    It’s like we started antibiotics and 75% of the way through the pills we decided we feel better so we stopped taking the meds but now there’s a good chance that the illness comes back. I’m this case the illness is being a mediocre team.
     
  9. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Why not just give every non-playoff team the exact same lottery odds? Sure, some teams at the margin may choose to purposely miss the playoffs, but it seems better than what we've got now.
     
  10. Freshtown

    Freshtown Well-Known Member

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    Down to #11 now, ugh.
     
  11. MrDraftGuy

    MrDraftGuy Well-Known Member

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    My idea to resolve tanking would be to reduce lottery percentages for teams that have both A.) won the #1 pick within the last five years and B.) have gotten a Top 5 pick at least 3 times in the last decade. Just a few percentage points. And you can stack up those two conditions together to deter more lottery wins by losing teams.

    Then, you redistribute ping pong balls to the #7-14 standings with the higher numbers getting more. Suddenly, it's possible the #12-14 teams would resemble #9-11 odds while #9-11 teams would resemble #6-8 under the best circumstances.
     
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  12. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately I think tanking is a necessary evil for non-destination teams.

    I think anything you do to limit tanking will just help destination teams win more titles.
     
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  13. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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  14. KingSpeed

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    2 months? There’s less than a month left.
     
  15. KingSpeed

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    Bulls already had Pippen when they played the Pistons in the playoffs.
     
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  16. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    They had the best player in NBA history. And they drafted him #3.

    They would have won exactly zero championships if they hadn't drafted MJ. If we had a player like MJ on this team (with an even decent coach) we'd probably be playing for home court advantage right now.
     
  17. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Didn't they play them almost every year? Id have to go back and check but that validifies it even more.
     
  18. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Local Trans Icon

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    They make 50x more money than they did in 1990, and know their value as licensing and marketing entities. It’s just business.
     
  19. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    That is irrelevant to my point. Even with the best player ever they couldn't win without putting in hard work in the offseason. Where he was drafted is irrelevant in the context of my post.
    But to cater to your point, i do not believe the bulls tanked to get Jordan.
     
  20. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    yeah. Tons of money now. So much so that i don't see how the bottom falls out once sponsorship funds fade.
    Which i beleive is only a matter of time.
     

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