OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA MADNESS: MARCH 2025

I'm not ready to say the pick was a mistake at all. I love Amen but I think Scoot has higher potential when it comes to someone who can be a priority on offense. I don't think Amen will ever be that but he's awesome anyway. Give Scoot a year of being the starter and we can assess from there.

 

I guess we all have a little C.S. Lewis in all of us after all?

 

Sounds defeated. I love it.

 

I'm not getting into Aldo's constant trolling about Scoot vs Amen

but the statement that Amen is a non shooter seems to be missing some important context

FG%: Amen .553....Scoot .423
2ptFG%: Amen .596....Scoot .468
3ptFG%: Amen .256....Scoot .361
eFG%: Amen .569....Scoot .499
FT%: Amen .693....Scoot .769
FT made/game: Amen 2.6....Scoot 2.4
TS%: Amen .600....Scoot .543
Pts/FGA: Amen 1.40....Scoot 1.23
FG% at Rim: Amen .757....Scoot .590

Amen averages 14.1 points on 10.0 shots; Scoot averages 12.8 points on 10.4 shots

per 100/possessions, Scoot averages 2.2 more points, but he needs 3.9 more shots to get there

for a non-shooter, Amen sure is out-performing Scoot in a lot of shooting metrics; by year 5 for both? who knows. But efficiency matters, and Amen is efficient

I tend to agree that Amen's perimeter shooting will probably set a lower ceiling on his trajectory. If he was shooting 35-37% on three's he'd be headed for all-NBA recognition; soon. He might get close even without improving his three point stroke because he is so dynamic in just about every other facet of the game

 

You've watched Amen right??? The dude gets his points at the hoop. He's a smart scorer and he benefits from good shooters he plays with but his shot is terrible... terrible. I'm just talking about his terrible jumper, not his overall ability to score.

 

If Amen's 3-point shooting were non-existent I think is a more likely outcome than "If he was shooting 35%."

in 2025 so far Amen is averaging per game 0.3 three-point buckets made on 25% shooting.

He has effectively given up on taking 3-pointers for now. That's one reason for his efficiency.



In March, Amen is shooting Zero percent on 3-pointers on 1 attempt per game.

 

I want a superstar dude. We almost had one with amen

 

He's not a superstar.

 

Yeah he is... he is averaging like 14 points per game, um... 8 rebounds, uh... almost 4 assists, well... he does get over a steal and a block per game. Oh your saying those are the numbers of a defensive stopper and not even a 3 and D guy. Well if that's not a superstar I don't know what is.

 

Amen's shooting chart:



42% of Amen's shots are at the hoop; BUT, 40% are in the 3-16' range and he shoots around 47% in that range. He wouldn't be doing that with a terrible jump shot; can't shoot lay-ups from 10 feet. His shooting mechanics aren't exactly terrible; they aren't pretty either, and the outcomes just get worse the further he is from the basket

here's Scoot:



While Amen takes around 82% of his shots within 16', Scoot takes 51% in that range. Amen is just a lot better in that range. And Scoot is a lot better outside of 16'

curious...here's Brandon Roy



compare Roy's bottom line to Amen's bottom line. Roy was considered a master manipulator in the paint and at the rim. 53% of his shots were in that range. But Amen is quite a bit better at the rim and also better in the two zones out to 16'. Essentially, Amen is better inside of that 16' arc than was Brandon Roy. He's been scouted thoroughly; opposing teams and defenders know what he aims to do....and they haven't been able to stop him. If anything, his impact has been increasing against strong resistance

as I said in the earlier post, I think there is a ceiling on how good Amen can be because of his perimeter shot. But he will probably be perennial all-NBA Defense 1st team and do so while being better than Brandon Roy was in and around the paint. That's a pretty high ceiling to begin with

 

Superstar

 

but that cuts both ways doesn't it?

so....he doesn't shoot three's. Less than 20% of his shots are outside of 16'. He wants to get to the paint

opposing teams and defenders know what Amen wants to do; they have scouted him for nearly 2 years now. They know that baiting him into shooting from the perimeter doesn't really work. So, opponents are prepared to deny him the paint. They resist. And still, Amen gets into the paint and to the rim at a very high rate and when he gets there he's highly effective

 

Those aren't the numbers of a superstar. I still think he's awesome.

 

The Women’s games have been better to watch so far this year. Men’s has had a couple good games but probably not as many as they usually do.

 

Where does that stat say he’s shooting from 10’ let alone making them? 3-16’ can mean he’s only hitting from 3’.

 

I was kidding around but yeah he's a lot of fun to watch. Both him and Scoot have a lot more time before they've reached a point where we know how good they'll be.

 

lol, really? maybe look in this thread...the 'stats' you're looking for I posted about 5 posts above. he's shooting 48.4% on shots in the 10-16 foot zone. His average shot distance is 7.7'