Suggs not fit for Jets Flunks physical, goes back to Browns By RICH CIMINIDAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER The Jets say Lee Suggs isn't physically fit to play football. The Browns say he's fine. The end result: It's back to the phones for Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, who resumes his search for a veteran running back.Finding a quasi-replacement for Curtis Martin is getting harder by the day.The Jets, who agreed Monday to trade cornerback Derrick Strait to the Browns in exchange for Suggs, voided the deal yesterday when the injury-plagued Suggs failed their physical.Suggs, who would've competed for the starting running back position, was flunked because of a surgically repaired knee that concerned the Jets, according to multiple sources. The Jets, fearing that Martin won't be ready for the season opener because of a career-threatening knee injury, hope to make another trade in the coming days. Two prominent names on their short list are the Falcons' T.J. Duckett and the 49ers' Kevan Barlow, both more accomplished than Suggs. They're "very interested" in Duckett, a source said."It's fair to assume there could be a lot of moves," said Eric Mangini, anticipating additions at various positions.Suggs seemed like a good fit. He arrived Monday night at Weeb Ewbank Hall and chatted briefly with Mangini, who told him to start studying. But the trade got blown up yesterday morning, when it was time to take the physical.Coincidentally, Suggs hasn't suffered any knee injuries in his three-year NFL career - he has hurt his ankle, thumb, neck, toe and shoulder - but he did tear a knee ligament in 2001 at Virginia Tech.What makes the aborted trade so curious is that Suggs seemingly is healthy for a change. He hasn't missed a training-camp practice, according to the Browns, and he played five series in their preseason opener against the Eagles.The Browns released a statement that disputes the Jets' medical decision, with GM Phil Savage saying that Suggs will return to practice immediately."Medical opinions can vary from team to team, and obviously this is one team's opinion," Savage said.Said Browns coach Romeo Crennel: "They've got a new regime down there, so maybe they're doing things a little differently. All I can say is the kid was practicing for us."Mangini refused to divulge any specifics regarding the failed physical."We have a whole series of tests - we're very thorough with the process - and he just didn't pass those tests," Mangini said.Suggs returned to Cleveland, where he likely will be the No.3 running back. Strait, who was wearing a Browns T-shirt and meeting with the Cleveland coaches when the news broke, was en route to New York late yesterday. He's expected to practice today.This was a setback for the Jets, but Mangini tried to put a positive spin on it, chalking it up to "standard operating procedure."Now the pressure is on Tannenbaum to get another back. The Jets lack confidence in Derrick Blaylock and Cedric Houston, and would like to acquire a starting-caliber back.Duckett is an intriguing possibility. The Falcons, with Warrick Dunn and promising rookie Jerious Norwood at running back, are expected to put Duckett on the trading block after this weekend's games. They're believed to be seeking a third-round pick. The Steelers, too, are thought to be interested in Duckett.At 6-0, 254 pounds, Duckett, a former first-rounder, is a bruising back who was used as a goal-line runner last season. In four seasons, he has rushed for 2,175yards and 31 touchdowns.Barlow, who split time last season with Frank Gore, also is believed to be available. Barlow (6-1, 231) has 3,614 yards and 24 touchdowns in five seasons. Currently, he's battling a hamstring injury. Originally published on August 16, 2006I wonder what Smar19 has to say to the Gore thing...
It said Barlow, not Gore....As for either of them...unless were talking about a Day 2 pick or someone expendible like Strait im not interested.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 16 2006, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It said Barlow, not Gore....As for either of them...unless were talking about a Day 2 pick or someone expendible like Strait im not interested.</div>My bad...
I am intrigued with Duckett. I kind of want to see what he can do for us, but am afraid of giving up to much. A 4th round pick would be about ok by me, because at the very least he is strong and steady. Everyone we have on our roster suffered an injury last year. Every RB.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Aug 16 2006, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am intrigued with Duckett. I kind of want to see what he can do for us, but am afraid of giving up to much. A 4th round pick would be about ok by me, because at the very least he is strong and steady. Everyone we have on our roster suffered an injury last year. Every RB.</div>This is gonna be a hard trade to do. The Falcon's GM probably wants a a big return just like the one we got for Abe.
if we gave up a late pick (4th rounder) for duckett i would be happy. Hes a bruising runner who holds on to the ball
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Aug 16 2006, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if we gave up a late pick (4th rounder) for duckett i would be happy. Hes a bruising runner who holds on to the ball</div>I would be interested in Duckett based on his potential, but I wouldnt be willing to part with a Day 1 Pick for him either. I just think that it would be a mistake to part with such a high pick when we are a rebuilding team unless we view him as a long-term answer. And I doubt that Duckett would be viewed as a long-term answer.
I know, not sure why I quoted you...Something I found on Barlow<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>49ers | Barlow not worried about a tradeWed, 16 Aug 2006 16:36:47 -0700Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers RB Kevan Barlow is not worried about being traded to the New York Jets. Head coach Mike Nolan reassured Barlow Tuesday, Aug. 14, that Barlow is not being shopped. "I'm not worried about it," Barlow said. "It's just speculation. That's what he told me. I feel it's an honor for a team that wants to trade for you. I'm happy here. This is my team. We went through ups and downs and now we're back up. Coach Nolan told me not to pay any attention to it."</div>
Seth Wickersham of ESPN:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>? I have an NFL pal who believes that the Jets flunked Lee Suggs on purpose because they found out they could get the 49ers Kevan Barlow after the trade had gone down. Everyone knows it's not hard for a team to find a way to fail a physical. Interesting conspiracy theory.</div>Got this off a 49er board.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Seth Wickersham of ESPN:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>• I have an NFL pal who believes that the Jets flunked Lee Suggs on purpose because they found out they could get the 49ers Kevan Barlow after the trade had gone down. Everyone knows it's not hard for a team to find a way to fail a physical. Interesting conspiracy theory.</div>Got this off a 49er board.</div>It's possible, but I dont really believe Barlow is the answer I'd be looking for either....I'd rather not overpay for another dime-a-dozen back when we have 3 already, I was undecided on the Suggs deal for the very same reason because unless its someone we can realistically view as a Potential Franchise Runningback, I dont see how its any better then what we currently have.....Plus, that kinda contradicts what I had posted in the post right above yours about his availability.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Seth Wickersham of ESPN:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>? I have an NFL pal who believes that the Jets flunked Lee Suggs on purpose because they found out they could get the 49ers Kevan Barlow after the trade had gone down. Everyone knows it's not hard for a team to find a way to fail a physical. Interesting conspiracy theory.</div>Got this off a 49er board.</div>My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Aug 18 2006, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Seth Wickersham of ESPN:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>? I have an NFL pal who believes that the Jets flunked Lee Suggs on purpose because they found out they could get the 49ers Kevan Barlow after the trade had gone down. Everyone knows it's not hard for a team to find a way to fail a physical. Interesting conspiracy theory.</div>Got this off a 49er board.</div>My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.</div>Why would they be happy with them? I cant say I seen them play last season but I checked out their stats and I dont see anythin to be happy about. Houston had the best (3.7 YPC, 300 yards), but thats bad... You can talk about a bad line and all but Frank Gore had over 600 yards and 4.8 YPC with a bad line and no help at receiver while the Jets had Coles...Im missin somethin here
[quote name='david81' post='65179' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65173' date='Aug 18 2006, 07:51 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65149' date='Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM']Seth Wickersham of ESPN: Got this off a 49er board.[/quote]My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.[/quote]Why would they be happy with them? I cant say I seen them play last season but I checked out their stats and I dont see anythin to be happy about. Houston had the best (3.7 YPC, 300 yards), but thats bad... You can talk about a bad line and all but Frank Gore had over 600 yards and 4.8 YPC with a bad line and no help at receiver while the Jets had Coles...Im missin somethin here [/quote]After the O-line injuries the Jets not only had the worst O-line in the NFL, but a 4th string QB.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65181' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:45 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65179' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65173' date='Aug 18 2006, 07:51 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65149' date='Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM']Seth Wickersham of ESPN: Got this off a 49er board.[/quote]My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.[/quote]Why would they be happy with them? I cant say I seen them play last season but I checked out their stats and I dont see anythin to be happy about. Houston had the best (3.7 YPC, 300 yards), but thats bad... You can talk about a bad line and all but Frank Gore had over 600 yards and 4.8 YPC with a bad line and no help at receiver while the Jets had Coles...Im missin somethin here [/quote]After the O-line injuries the Jets not only had the worst O-line in the NFL, but a 4th string QB.[/quote] :whistling: Plus the 49ers had Alex Smith startin, you know how bad he was...I dont know, maybe its just unfair to compare Houston to Gore...
[quote name='david81' post='65195' date='Aug 18 2006, 09:04 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65181' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:45 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65179' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65173' date='Aug 18 2006, 07:51 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65149' date='Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM']Seth Wickersham of ESPN: Got this off a 49er board.[/quote]My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.[/quote]Why would they be happy with them? I cant say I seen them play last season but I checked out their stats and I dont see anythin to be happy about. Houston had the best (3.7 YPC, 300 yards), but thats bad... You can talk about a bad line and all but Frank Gore had over 600 yards and 4.8 YPC with a bad line and no help at receiver while the Jets had Coles...Im missin somethin here [/quote]After the O-line injuries the Jets not only had the worst O-line in the NFL, but a 4th string QB.[/quote] :whistling: Plus the 49ers had Alex Smith startin, you know how bad he was...I dont know, maybe its just unfair to compare Houston to Gore...[/quote]Sacks have little to do with run blocking.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65197' date='Aug 18 2006, 09:07 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65195' date='Aug 18 2006, 09:04 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65181' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:45 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65179' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='65173' date='Aug 18 2006, 07:51 PM'][quote name='david81' post='65149' date='Aug 18 2006, 04:28 PM']Seth Wickersham of ESPN: Got this off a 49er board.[/quote]My own conspiracy theory: The Jets are happy with the tag-team of Houston-Washington/Blaylock but wanted to inspire them to work harder. They trade for Suggs and then void it, keeping the solid 5th CB and still inspiring the RB's.[/quote]Why would they be happy with them? I cant say I seen them play last season but I checked out their stats and I dont see anythin to be happy about. Houston had the best (3.7 YPC, 300 yards), but thats bad... You can talk about a bad line and all but Frank Gore had over 600 yards and 4.8 YPC with a bad line and no help at receiver while the Jets had Coles...Im missin somethin here [/quote]After the O-line injuries the Jets not only had the worst O-line in the NFL, but a 4th string QB.[/quote] :whistling: Plus the 49ers had Alex Smith startin, you know how bad he was...I dont know, maybe its just unfair to compare Houston to Gore...[/quote]Sacks have little to do with run blocking.[/quote]Thats very true but I dont think it mattered how good of run blockers the 49ers were when the opposin defense would stack the box cuz the 49ers had no one to throw to. So I guess the 49ers have a better run blocking line while the Jets have better receivers. But 3.7 YPC for Houston is nothin to be happy with either way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thats very true but I dont think it mattered how good of run blockers the 49ers were when the opposin defense would stack the box cuz the 49ers had no one to throw to. So I guess the 49ers have a better run blocking line while the Jets have better receivers. But 3.7 YPC for Houston is nothin to be happy with either way.</div>Tomlinson has had 1 season with a 3.6 YPC and another with a 3.9 YPC....So?Not to mention Clinton Portis (3.8) , Tiki Barber (3.2), and Edgerrin James (3.6)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Aug 18 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thats very true but I dont think it mattered how good of run blockers the 49ers were when the opposin defense would stack the box cuz the 49ers had no one to throw to. So I guess the 49ers have a better run blocking line while the Jets have better receivers. But 3.7 YPC for Houston is nothin to be happy with either way.</div>Tomlinson has had 1 season with a 3.6 YPC and another with a 3.9 YPC....So?</div>Hmmm I guess I should feel great about Kevan Barlow's 3.3 YPC last season since Tomlinson had 3.6 YPC one season. Whatever makes you feel good about Houston buddy :thumbsup:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Aug 18 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Aug 18 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thats very true but I dont think it mattered how good of run blockers the 49ers were when the opposin defense would stack the box cuz the 49ers had no one to throw to. So I guess the 49ers have a better run blocking line while the Jets have better receivers. But 3.7 YPC for Houston is nothin to be happy with either way.</div>Tomlinson has had 1 season with a 3.6 YPC and another with a 3.9 YPC....So?</div>Hmmm I guess I should feel great about Kevan Barlow's 3.3 YPC last season since Tomlinson had 3.6 YPC one season. Whatever makes you feel good about Houston buddy :thumbsup:</div>Hey, Michael Bennett had not one, but 2 seasons with a 5 + YPC average. Why don't the Jets trade for him?!
