Blazers lose tiebreaker, picking 10th

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  1. Foxx

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    ROFL the non official “blazers fan” 25 logo
     
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    Didn't get enough good ones. Didn't lose long enough to build enough quality depth.

    Halfway rebuild now relies on gambling and hoping that our front office is smarter than everyone else's.

    Not ideal, but it's what we've got.
     
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    I was unaware that if we lost a few more games the NBA had promised us Cooper Flagg. Now I know that I can see that winning was a mistake.
     
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    No we had to trade Scoot, Sharpe, and Clingan to LA.
     
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    I HOPE this is tongue in cheek, because if this is a disaster then Trump does a couple of things every day that are positively apocalyptic.
     
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    How do you hope they are smarter when they weren’t smart enough to lose enough to get a good pick?
     
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    Well, he does.
     
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    if you're reaching back 30-40 years in the draft, things were really different back then. There were no draft combines; no organized format of pre-draft measurement; no formalized organization of pre-draft workouts

    and there is simply no denying, no matter how many times people try to hedge it, that being in the top-10 of the first round is much better than being 11-30. Just go back about 20 years in the Blazer draft history:

    top-10:

    Martell Webster (CP3 available)
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Brandon Roy
    Greg Oden (should have honked twice?)
    Damian Lillard
    CJ McCollum (10th)
    Zach Collins (10th)
    Shaedon Sharpe
    Scoot Henderson
    Donovan Clingan

    11-30:

    Sebastian Telfaire
    Sergei Monia
    Jarrett Jack
    Sergio Rodriguez
    Joel Freeland
    Rudy Fernandez
    Petteri Koponen
    Jerryd Bayless
    Nicolas Batum
    Victor Claver
    Luke Babbitt
    Elliot Williams
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson-->Mason Plumlee
    Caleb Swanigan
    Nolan Smith
    Meyers Leonard
    Anfernee Simons
    Nassir Little
    Kris Murray

    2nd Rd picks:

    Ha Seung-Jin; Ricky Sanchez; James White; Josh McRoberts, Taurean Green; Dante Cunningham; Patty Mills; Armon Johnson; Jon Diebler; Will Barton; Allen Crabbe; CJ Elleby; Rayan Rupert

    obviously, at this point; we don't really know what the trajectories of Sharpe, Scoot, and Clingan will be so set them aside for the moment

    then, look at those lists with the perspective of "hey, the Blazers just need to do a good job of draft evaluation outside of the top-10 and they could find a star". That's a common refrain around here

    we're looking at 7 top-10 picks; 18 first round picks outside of the top-10; and 13 second round picks. Granted, the water outside of the top-10 is a little murky because of all of the trades jockeying around the draft order; but that's always the case

    so then 7 rolls of the draft dice in the top-10; and 31 rolls of the draft dice outside of the top-10. In those 7 top-10 rolls, there are 19 all-star games and 14 all-NBA teams. In the 31 rolls outside of the top-10 there are ZERO all star games and ZERO all-NBA awards. Meaning that hoping for the Blazers to strike gold later in the draft has been hollow strategy for the last 20 years or so. Hasn't happened. Blazers have only struck gold along the river, not in any streams

    sure, other teams have got really lucky; Booker was 13th; Giannis 15th; Butler 30th. But counting on the Blazers getting lucky is as dumb as counting on them winning the 9th pick instead of the 10th yesterday
     
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    It was never Cooper Flagg or bust. It was always consistent high picks to maximize young cheap highest quality possible assets to build for long term success.

    Like Boston, OKC, San Antonio, etc. Freaking cheaters...
     
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    ALSO, the last time the Florida Gators won a National Championship…..we won the NBA Lottery FAMS! Shit 95.8% of this forum are virgins…..let’s start sacrificin!
     
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    I rank our current situation somewhere between the current presidential situation and the most recent episode of The Last of Us…….sigh
     
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    I will say this, while it obviously drove me pretty nuts that we won so many meaningless games down the stretch, after the Deni move I trust our front office a lot more. I was sure that was an overpay but it was a steal. We'll see what happens but at least we've seen some solid moves lately that should give us hope.

    Maybe in guys like Tou, Shaedon and Deni we do have enough stars to just surround them with role players, maybe Scoot should be on that list. We'll see what happens in the next two and a half months as far as building out the roster more around them and hopefully moving on from guys making more than them. I don't think any of us should be whining (not that you were) between now and then. The wins that didn't make sense are behind us, so let's hope the moves make sense going forward.
     
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    Championship or bust thinking is a disease.
     
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    I liked this post because I like the sentiment but fans, on this board and in general, loved the Dame pick. Dame had given some interviews already and his workout was reportedly great. I do remember a lot of consternation (not necessarily criticism) of the Meyers pick and a lot of people wondering what the fuck we were doing the year after when we picked a guy in CJ that seemed like Dame Lite. That being said, I agree that we can strike gold at 10, we could even move back, picking up another pick and strike gold twice... maybe we even get lucky and move up. We'll just have to wait and see.

    We do have a better than 1 in 6 chance of moving up and I don't know anyone who thinks those are slim enough odds to play Russian roulette.
     
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    The three best players in the NBA- SGA, Giannis and Jokic- were picked outside the top 10.
     
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    How did that help?
     
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    He didn’t get his hopes up with unrealistic expectations.
     
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    Good. That’s what you get for tanking.
     
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    You people still have expectations?
     

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