How are people really saying we tanked when the team was projected at 22.5 wins before the season and we won 36… We overachieved this season. It’s like the glass is simultaneously half full and half empty.
I consider any draft day trades to be drafting. We swapped picks with the Bulls. Same with the Celtics for Roy.
Like I said, I don't know if any of that is realistic. Just what I thought @Phatguysrule was getting at. In hindsight I'm sure many of us would have just preferred that none of Ayton, Simons or Grant were on the roster and that they'd been traded for guys we could waive, made sense to sit, youth that fit in or whatever. Like I said, that's not our reality, none of this really matters because the season played out the way it did. Was it wise for us to play those vets at the beginning of the season... yeah it probably was since we hadn't traded them. I had far less of a problem with that decision than I did with not full on tanking after the deadline but that along with what sounds like a vetoed trade or two were calls that seemingly were made by Kolde who I don't think has a lot of fans in this forum anyway. Regardless, what's done is done and I really do hope that we see some moves made this off season and a roster that makes sense and takes the next step which would be to make the playoffs... while handing the reigns over to the young core.
I agree and not moving them this summer is another topic of discussion. With them on the roster, there is no way they wouldn't be played, so to say we should have played scrubs is not being realistic regarding how the season went, with the roster we had. Or at least I knew the moment we entered the season with the roster we had the vets would get minutes. But I agree with you mostly on it is what it is. Im excited and hopeful. I see alot of promise in the current roster(as long as we move Ant and Grant this summer), already.
It’s like it’s just so easy to not be normal in this scenario though! Why cant we just be not normal! This team and management sucks!!! Green Beans….
Bingo...so right on Every year at least 15 teams are 500 or below and really every year there are only 3-5 legit contenders. So, it's a league where 2/3 of the league is in purgatory, and of the other ten may be 3-5 legit contenders and the rest mediocre at best.
Being 500 or below and loaded with young talent and future extra draft picks is not purgatory. That was OKC in 22-23. That's not the situation we're in.
Sorry but every year 1/2 the league is 500 or below. And if you make the offs and dont advance past first round thats mediocre. There have been teams loaded with young talent and never get to the Conference finals. I looked back a couple years ago and 13 teams of the 30 have won the whole thing in the last 50 years. Some multiple times. It's a league of mediocrity. Wasn't talking about Blazers. WE wot be mediocre tell we hit at least 500. lol The league was marketed & built around playoff basketball thats why they increased the amount of teams years back. NBA is FANtastic...remember that...
But the discussion was purgatory. Just being middle of the pack doesn't mean you're in purgatory. If you have excess talent or opportunity to add talent you may well be in a great place regardless of your record.
I agreed with EB that 2/3rds of the teams are in a state of purgatory every year. Neither good enough to advance far, or bad enough to hit the lotto. The teams making up 2/3 certainly can change year to year but many stay in the category for a long long time.
The ones who stay are the ones who refuse to admit they don't have enough. The ones who don't are the ones who understand how to build or the ones who have advantages other teams do not. Unfortunately we don't have any advantages yet, or prospects to gain advantages...
I must have missed that. I would disagree. Trades will be critical. Even if we'd done the most effective tanking job in history.
I just miss being in the playoffs every year and winning 50+ games. Maybe they should start doing that again?
