Starters

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by 1 Eye Jack, May 6, 2025 at 3:59 PM.

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How many starters are you comfortable with on current roster

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  4. 3

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    He's a great defender and a better locker room guy. He's the kind of pro we want our young guys learning from.

    Plus, he'll be valuable if/when we're in the playoffs. Especially if he can get his 3 going.
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Man I just want to see one full year of Scoot/Sharpe/Tou/Deni/Ayton or Clingan.
     
  3. Pinwheel1

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    Tou surprised me with his offense. The way he can finish with either hand is impressive. Solid 3pt shooter and is the best defender on the team. Having said that, Deni is the best overall player we have. A better scorer, rebounder, and passer. What he offers is absolutely what every team needs. I don't want him to be our leading scorer, though. Hopefully, that will be Shae
     
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  4. 1 Eye Jack

    1 Eye Jack Well-Known Member

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    yeah I had hoped we’d see that last year. Only problem is when we get Flag ;) who sits? Oh never mind Billups will sit him for a couple of years
     
  5. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    also, after matching the Thybulle offer sheet, Portland has 'allowed' THREE 8-9M TPE's expire because of barely dodging the tax line. They might not have been able to leverage those TPE's into a prospect or draft capital, but they were options discarded because of bad cap management
     
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    Oh no... Not 3 expired TPE's.... What the hell is Cronin doing?

    Sarcasm aside, the vast majority of TPE's expire un-used round the league. Yes, they CAN be a nice tool. But they are worth far less than a player who is actually producing on a fair contract. (Injury season aside, I'd call Thybulle as a fair contract).
     
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    Shae has to improve his 3. Props to Hen for improving his, hope it carries over. If we have a starting back court that shoot's low 30's and below we are toast.
     
  8. inconceivable

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    and dribbling skills
     
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    I understand that. However, at trade deadlines, many times relatively useless players have been moved into space and TPE's to get teams below the tax or under an apron. The currency has usually been draft assets. Having options is better than not having options, even minor ones. And I'm not talking about a single TPE in the 8-9M range; I'm talking about 3. There was also a TPE of around 6M that expired

    Thybulle a fair contract? maybe; in theory. He was a waste last year on a tanking team barely under the tax line. And you can's really set aside an injury for a player who has averaged less than 60 games a year. He has played only 80 of 164 games for Portland; less than half. So far, it hasn't been a very 'fair' exchange. Maybe that will change next season; maybe not
     
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    Can you give me a single example of a move Portland 'missed out' on where decent value was exchanged?
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/transactions/trade/_/start/2024-10-01/end/2025-06-01

    Best one that I can find is:
    2/6/25 -> Philly gives Detroit 2-seconds to dump Kenyon Martin Jr

    Most of the others aren't even that good. Regardless, it's definitely not worth the time & effort to continue to beat a dead horse about how 'stupid and incomponent' Portland's front office is....
     
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    There is value to the team and then value within the league.
    If the league views Thybulle’s contract as fair and we can move that contract for fair vLue back, doesn't that make it a fair contract he has, regardless of how many games he played?

    im pretty sure gms dont place value of a contract based mainly on how many games the player played. We tanked. Other teams/gms know this and will gauge his contract accordingly.
     
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    He's a very capable player and a fantastic teammate and ambassador for the team.

    I'm happy to have him.
     
  13. andalusian

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    I have to say that he is fun to watch
     
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    I didn't say one fucking thing in my post about FO incompetence. I simply said, or at least implied, that matching Thybulle's offer sheet eliminated any differential under the tax line that might have allowed an option for using any of the TPE's.
     
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    I've said before that I was more ok with him being a Blazer than any of the 5 vets Portland carried on the payroll. I still wouldn't have matched the offer sheet but I imagine Cronin/Kolde view Thybulle as an important cog in their playoff chase next season, providing he picks up his option
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, not so much disagreeing with you as I'm just voicing my support for Thybulle.
     
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    Maybe not in these most recent 2 posts...

    But it's been a consistent theme from you for as long as I have been on this board. It bleeds through almost every interaction with some sort of criticism and/or derogatory statement.

    Stealing from other threads:
    I get it... You're a pessimist. I can be too.

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    Thanks for including DA in this. Sometimes I feel like the only one who sees how he’s the one vet actually worth fitting into the core.
     
  19. Pinwheel1

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    Yeah, the hate on this guy is a bit over the top. Unless he is replaced with a front-court player who can score, he fills a need.
     
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    With Flagg off the bench?
     

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