Derik Queen?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Closer to Zach than Swanigan. But even if he matches Zach, I'm not sure I think that is worth a top 14 pick in the current NBA.
     
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    Queen and Toppin both caught my eye in the tourney. Not sure if Toppin is coming out yet. At the time, Queen was rated higher but neither were near 11.
     
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    His game reminds me of another former Blazer - JJ Hickson.
     
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    He’d definitely need his own Dairy Queen glass if he’s on the team.
     
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  7. Rastapopoulos

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    Pluses:
    • he's a bucket in the halfcourt - something we don't have at the moment and something that seems to be coming back into fashion a little (Randle no longer the joke he used to be)
    • He's supposed to be an excellent passer - should team up well with Clingan
    Minuses:
    • Terrible defender on a team that's trying to make its identity defense
    • is he suited to the uptempo game we're trying to play?
    • Short for the type of game he plays, and not exactly athletic either
     
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    But it might be in the current draft
     
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    No thanks
     
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    Yuck. Long athletic bigs. It's not that hard
     
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    like who in this draft class? Sorber?
     
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    Essengue & Lendeborg
     
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    Interesting, does MM consider Essengue a "Big". Dude's arms are tiny. Not to say he's a bad prospect, but I thought we were talking about bigs like Queen.
     
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    Zbo absolutely is worth an 11th pick. I'm clearly taking Zbo over most the guys drafted at #11 since 2000;

    Jett Howard
    Ousmane Dieng
    James Bouknight
    Devin Vassell
    Malik Monk
    Dough McDermott
    Michael Carter-Williams
    Meyers Leonard
    Cole Aldrich
    Terrence WIlliams
    Jerryd Bayless
    Acie Law
    Fran Vazquez
    Andris Biedrins
    Mickael Pietrus
    Jared Jeffries
    Kedrick Brown
    Jerome Moiso

    Now theres a number of players much better than ZBo also that were at #11 starting with SGA. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any SGA level player available on the mocks at #11. If we can snag a ZBo on a cheap rookie contract - then do it. Now if he is unlikely to realize potential as a ZBo level player - thats a different dynamic and yes should give us pause to select him.

    While need is not a big factor for me in picking rookies - we do have the defenders on this roster to cover for a player like that and could really use some offensive punch.
     
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    JJ could never dream of being able to put the ball on the floor and pass like Queen.
     
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    Sengun disagrees.
     
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    He reminds me of Ike Diogu but more mobile. Good for garbage buckets and under the modern game, cutting to the rim. JJ Hickson was listed above as a comp and that might be another apt comparison.

    Not seeing anything else beyond that.

    There are complaints about motor, tweener size, lack of strong go-to moves, awkward shooting form, and defensive intensity.

    I don't think he's Zach Randolph, who had excellent footwork and could glide similar to a wing when he was a younger player while also creating his own shot. Here's what young Zach looked like and....quite honestly, if he had been in the modern era, he might've focused more on developing that part of his game to resemble something like Ingram rather than being the pure PF that he was.



    So, I'd expect Ike Diogu meets JJ Hickson, instead, but with playmaking
     
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    Yeah, because they're never lottery busts.
     
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    Well, at least you added "with playmaking" after sticking the knife in
     
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    For me, the minuses outweigh the pluses. He does not fit the identity of our team.
     
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