Who do you want at #11?

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    May 28th - Stocks are becoming clearer

    Pick #11:
    1a) Kasparas Jakucionis
    1b) Hugo Gonzalez


    Darkhorse:
    • Jase Richardson
     
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    Teams will pass on Jase because of his size, but he sure would be fun to have coming off our bench.
    And since at 11, anyone we pick will probably be coming off our bench....why not? He is 3/4 of an inch shorter than Scoot, but a much better shooter.
     
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    His reach is 8’3” as well - for comparison,
    CJ’s is 8’0.5”

    He’s super underrated
     
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    Jase Richardson has to end up with the Sixers - they have a type.
     
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    Coward if Cons not there. McNeeley if we trade down. One of the better shooters in the draft some have compared him to Bogdonivich.
     
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    Scoot is said to be 6'2.5" barefoot, so Jase is 2" shorter. Scoot also has +20lbs on him, a massive wingspan, tremendous athleticism & is just an overall beast. His size/speed allows him to switch onto wings on D much better then most PGs. If you like Jase fine, but there is no comparison of these two physically.

    And shooting? We shall see how Jase does at the NBA 3 point line, but at the FT line Scoot is at 79% Jase 84%

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    Back at #11 is sort of an odd position as who am I choosing between and do I go today fit or upside? Fleming seems a sure rotation guy at least after Ayton is moved & would fit with this roster about as well as anyone realistically could between Deni and Donovan size wise. No he's likely never to be their guy in a marketing campaign or to lead them in any major statistical category, but he's a 4/5 that can switch on D, defend the rim and spread opponent's D with a legit 3 ball threat. I'm also liking options of Coward, Essengue, Bryant, Jakucionis & reserve the right to completely change my mind as I've just started this process.

    What would help this discussion is if there was consensus on who is available at #11 as the mocks are wildly divergent. May I suggest going forward, Flagg, Harper, VJ , Ace, Tre, Fears & Kon (lock to the Jazz) are off the board?

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    Tankathon's stat system has Richardson the highest rated lead guard in the draft, Demin and Jakucionis rated quite low. Their system not perfect but had very high ratings on Halliburton and SGA, neither of who were drafted very high.
     
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    Yes, I am fully aware that Scoot is bigger. Like I said, anyone they draft will more than likely come off the bench, so you don't need to convince me Scoot is better. I am just saying, if they did draft him, I wouldn't hate it because we will need a backup point guard and Jase
    has a lot of talent, as was on full display against our Ducks in February when he went for 29. At the same time, there are others that I would prefer over him at 11.
     
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    May 29th:

    Pick #11:

    1a) Kasparas Jakucionis
    1b) Jase Richardson

    Darkhorse:
    • Hugo Gonzalez

    ^^^^ Jase working out in Portland today :smiley-smiley-049:
     
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    When was the last time we drafted a player who never worked out for us? Scoot?
     
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    Scoot worked out for the Blazers.

    Seems like we have normally worked out who we draft.
     
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    A fundamentally good question. Who will be off the board when the Blazers pick at 11? Someone falls a bit or even out of the lottery who was getting serious, widespread hype. Someone jumps up a lot … a team falls in love. But the “first 3” and “the next 3” look pretty good. You have named 7 draftees who “should” be gone by 11.

    Maluach is the 7’ plus center in the lottery — safe guess. All the other centers or PF or PF/C usual suspects are less than 6’10”. New Orleans (7) and Toronto (9) are weak at center. Houston (10) could use a big beside Sengun — Queen, CMB, Sorber, Fleming, Newell.
    Jakucionis isn’t uber athletic or with amazing handles or … but he looks like a starter who plays on and off the ball at PG. Excellent passer.
    Bryant had limited time on court, but his D and physical profile and play coming on late …
    [Total guess but these are my next 3 prior to Portland.]

    Demin
    with height, vision, passing makes him an outlier at PG. Playmaker.
    Essengue is this year’s Salaun/Cody Williams for looking special if he develops physically and skills and … in a couple, few years.
    Along with the less-than-6’10 bigs above, there are 3 other dudes who are known for an NBA skill/ability:
    Traore as a quick PG with height who plays both ends. McNeeley has positional size and is known for his stroke and skills. Coward has SG/SF size, length, shooting, rebounds, connective, fills a stat table, “want to” … at WSU. That’s 8 plus the 5 bigs at PF or PF/C.

    After about the first 7 you mentioned — Three more of the above are gone (at 8-10). Out of about 10 guys (a guesstimation), the question for me is, “Who does Schmitz like?”

    At 11, it’s Demin or Coward. IMHO.

    [Demin is my favorite … but I see some dog in Coward like the skill-adding Wesley Matthews … a taller, longer Norman Powell … truly, some Mikal Bridges … and with my record, that means Demin isn’t picked — it’s Cedric Coward.]
     
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    UPSIDE PICK: Nolan Traore, Cedric Coward (bit old for an upside pick, but people are throwing "late bloomer" around), Carter Bryant, Derik Queen, Hugo Gonzalez
    IMMEDIATE CONTRIBUTOR: Nique Clifford, Jase Richardson, Collin Murray-Boyles, Thomas Sorber, Rasheer Fleming

    Richardson is honestly a bit of both, given that he's relatively young. (And having really pushed Jared McCain last year, I feel like if I'm consistent I should push him too.) And Bryant could also contribute, although he does seem to duplicate a type we have a surfeit of.

    I have a feeling that Clifford may turn out to be this draft's Desmond Bane, though. He certainly passes the eye test, whatever that's worth.

    Current top four, in no particular order
    Clifford, CMB, Traore, Richardson (you talked me into it Fez). Of those I'd be most nervous about Traore, but I believe he has the highest ceiling.
     
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    I love what I'm seeing with Coward & he may end up being my choice, but Demin seems a ways away from contributing. Of course they're very different ages with Coward being closer to a 3&D finished product, but with Demin I've real questions about his physical ability to not be targeted on D and his handle seems too weak at this point to lead an attack. That relegates him to a secondary playmaker where he'll need to hit 3s at a decent rate, which wasn't the case in college. I see him seasons away from being a regular in a rotation if he ever does. His combine run/jump numbers reflected the underwhelming athleticism I saw on tape. As someone who believes in him, please tell me how I've got it wrong and what you see... thanks!

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    Demin or Newell
     

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