Ashley Lelie to ATL, TJ Duckett to WAS, 3rd or 4th Rounder to DEN.

[quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66079' date='Aug 24 2006, 09:27 PM']I'm going to quote a bio from his personal site:

http://www.blloyd.com/bio.phpYou don't trade for a RFA, you simply offer a contract. Seriously, how do you trade for a FA? Regardless being a UFA or RFA, they do not need to be traded for, just offered a contract and they choose to sign or not sign. When you can learn about the NFL systems, please post back when you make sense.[/quote]What was the point in all of that? I won't bother exchanging childish insults over the internet. Grow up kid.I'll help educate you though. This is from NFL.com -

I imagine with the whole puberty thing happening for you, your attention span is roughly about the size of a thumbtack, so I'll abbreviate:RFA's are signed to offer sheets from other teams. When a team opts to not match another team's offer sheet, they are usually compansated in the form of draft picks.

Get up from your chair, step away from your computer, go to your nearest bathroom, look in the mirror, and repeat that 5 times aloud.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 24 2006, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm going to quote a bio from his personal site:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Joining the Redskins via trade in March 2006, Brandon looks to continue his strong play after establishing career-highs in every major offensive category in 2005.</div>http://www.blloyd.com/bio.phpYou don't trade for a RFA, you simply offer a contract. Seriously, how do you trade for a FA? Regardless being a UFA or RFA, they do not need to be traded for, just offered a contract and they choose to sign or not sign. When you can learn about the NFL systems, please post back when you make sense.</div>That is not correct man.In Restricted Free Agency, the original team offers the tender offer which then decides on the level of compensation should he sign elsewheres. However, the player can be traded without signing elsewheres. This is often done in times when a team offers a tender higher then the players value is (Such as the 49ers tendering Brandon Lloyd for a First Round Pick Compensation). Now obviously, the Redskins were not going to part with their first round pick for Brandon Lloyd (1. Because they didn't have One and 2. Because that is way too much for Lloyd). So they worked out a deal where they traded for the rights to Brandon Lloyd for a Third and Fourth Round Pick and then signed him to a long-term extension so he cannot go elsewheres (As he was technically still a tendered RFA after the deal was completed)

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Aug 25 2006, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 24 2006, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm going to quote a bio from his personal site:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Joining the Redskins via trade in March 2006, Brandon looks to continue his strong play after establishing career-highs in every major offensive category in 2005.</div>http://www.blloyd.com/bio.phpYou don't trade for a RFA, you simply offer a contract. Seriously, how do you trade for a FA? Regardless being a UFA or RFA, they do not need to be traded for, just offered a contract and they choose to sign or not sign. When you can learn about the NFL systems, please post back when you make sense.</div>That is not correct man.In Restricted Free Agency, the original team offers the tender offer which then decides on the level of compensation should he sign elsewheres. However, the player can be traded without signing elsewheres. This is often done in times when a team offers a tender higher then the players value is (Such as the 49ers tendering Brandon Lloyd for a First Round Pick Compensation). Now obviously, the Redskins were not going to part with their first round pick for Brandon Lloyd (1. Because they didn't have One and 2. Because that is way too much for Lloyd). So they worked out a deal where they traded for the rights to Brandon Lloyd for a Third and Fourth Round Pick and then signed him to a long-term extension so he cannot go elsewheres (As he was technically still a tendered RFA after the deal was completed)</div>That part is definately not true...<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ANYWAYS...</span>

 

[quote name='The Punisher' post='66148' date='Aug 25 2006, 07:41 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='66146' date='Aug 25 2006, 11:33 AM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66079' date='Aug 24 2006, 05:27 PM']I'm going to quote a bio from his personal site:

http://www.blloyd.com/bio.phpYou don't trade for a RFA, you simply offer a contract. Seriously, how do you trade for a FA? Regardless being a UFA or RFA, they do not need to be traded for, just offered a contract and they choose to sign or not sign. When you can learn about the NFL systems, please post back when you make sense.[/quote]That is not correct man.In Restricted Free Agency, the original team offers the tender offer which then decides on the level of compensation should he sign elsewheres. However, the player can be traded without signing elsewheres. This is often done in times when a team offers a tender higher then the players value is (Such as the 49ers tendering Brandon Lloyd for a First Round Pick Compensation). Now obviously, the Redskins were not going to part with their first round pick for Brandon Lloyd (1. Because they didn't have One and 2. Because that is way too much for Lloyd). So they worked out a deal where they traded for the rights to Brandon Lloyd for a Third and Fourth Round Pick and then signed him to a long-term extension so he cannot go elsewheres (As he was technically still a tendered RFA after the deal was completed)[/quote]That part is definately not true...<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ANYWAYS...</span>[/quote]So you're going to sit here and tell me that Brandon Lloyd is worth a First Round Pick? :LMAO:

 

Think what you want, but giving up the 32nd pick for Lloyd is worth it. Just take a look back at some of the young 1st round WR's...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 25 2006, 07:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think what you want, but giving up the 32nd pick for Lloyd is worth it. Just take a look back at some of the young 1st round WR's...</div>Great logic, because some people have busted the pick becomes expendible?Some First Round WR's over 2000-2005 (Excludeing this past draft since it's too soon to tell)Plaxico BurressSantana MossReggie WayneAndre JohnsonJavon WalkerLarry FitzgeraldRoy WilliamsLee EvansSome Second Round WR's over 2000-2005 (Excludeing this past draft since it's too soon to tell)Jerry PorterChad JohnsonChris ChambersDeion BranchAntonio BryantAnquan BoldinReggie BrownI mean, why draft a Wide Reciever when you could have Brandon Lloyd instead of Freddie Mitchell, right? Nevermind that you could have any of those Wide Recievers I listed above with that pick instead...cause at least Brandon Lloyd isnt Freddie Mitchell. :whistling:

 

I think pretty highly of the guy, and I'm intrigued by his potential, but a 1st rounder? No way in hades.

 

Lelie was a 1st rounder as well.I read that there were 992 scnerios for the draft picks pending on where the Broncos and Skins finish. That's alotta scnerios.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fedex Danny @ Aug 25 2006, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think pretty highly of the guy, and I'm intrigued by his potential, but a 1st rounder? No way in hades.</div> You thought I was seriously 12.

 

[quote name='The Punisher' post='66148' date='Aug 25 2006, 08:41 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='66146' date='Aug 25 2006, 11:33 AM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66079' date='Aug 24 2006, 05:27 PM']I'm going to quote a bio from his personal site:

http://www.blloyd.com/bio.phpYou don't trade for a RFA, you simply offer a contract. Seriously, how do you trade for a FA? Regardless being a UFA or RFA, they do not need to be traded for, just offered a contract and they choose to sign or not sign. When you can learn about the NFL systems, please post back when you make sense.[/quote]That is not correct man.In Restricted Free Agency, the original team offers the tender offer which then decides on the level of compensation should he sign elsewheres. However, the player can be traded without signing elsewheres. This is often done in times when a team offers a tender higher then the players value is (Such as the 49ers tendering Brandon Lloyd for a First Round Pick Compensation). Now obviously, the Redskins were not going to part with their first round pick for Brandon Lloyd (1. Because they didn't have One and 2. Because that is way too much for Lloyd). So they worked out a deal where they traded for the rights to Brandon Lloyd for a Third and Fourth Round Pick and then signed him to a long-term extension so he cannot go elsewheres (As he was technically still a tendered RFA after the deal was completed)[/quote]That part is definately not true...<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ANYWAYS...</span>[/quote]Post of the year :LMAO:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 25 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fedex Danny @ Aug 25 2006, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think pretty highly of the guy, and I'm intrigued by his potential, but a 1st rounder? No way in hades.</div> You thought I was seriously 12.</div>Would you find it funny if someone "seriously" thought you were a flaming homosexual when you really weren't? Wake up "kid", the jokes on you. Your remarks were still chidish, and it only makes you look worse. If I were you, I would have just let me continue to think you were 12, at least then you'd get a pass for appearing so clueless. Oh, and while we're at it, lets not bypass the fact that you were COMPLETELY loud, wrong, and ignorant about the whole RFA deal. I can feel my braincells dying of each time I have to respond to you, so from here on out, I'll try to only engage discussion with other more knowledgable posters.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 25 2006, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Aug 24 2006, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There was one winner in this trade IMO:Atlanta Yeah, all of you commenting on his attitude - He never became a huge problem until this offseason...and it was all part of him wanting to get traded so it was rightfully so.Duckett is overrated IMO, the Skins had enough depth at back...and I don't know about the 4th rounder </div>We have enough depth? :LMAO: Betts is one man, where else do you see a potential backup RB in our lineup?</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Betts is one man, where else do you see a potential backup RB in our lineup?</div>Way to answer your own question

 

[quote name='His Greatness' post='66242' date='Aug 25 2006, 08:40 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66125' date='Aug 25 2006, 01:19 AM'][quote name='His Greatness' post='66082' date='Aug 24 2006, 09:35 PM']There was one winner in this trade IMO:Atlanta Yeah, all of you commenting on his attitude - He never became a huge problem until this offseason...and it was all part of him wanting to get traded so it was rightfully so.Duckett is overrated IMO, the Skins had enough depth at back...and I don't know about the 4th rounder [/quote]We have enough depth? :LMAO: Betts is one man, where else do you see a potential backup RB in our lineup?[/quote]

Way to answer your own question [/quote]Depth does not mean 1 fucking person that could potentially take his place. Depth is the full amount of players in that position that could help the team in an emergency. As far as I'm concerned, Betts can't take the load by himself.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fedex Danny @ Aug 25 2006, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 25 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fedex Danny @ Aug 25 2006, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think pretty highly of the guy, and I'm intrigued by his potential, but a 1st rounder? No way in hades.</div> You thought I was seriously 12.</div>Would you find it funny if someone "seriously" thought you were a flaming homosexual when you really weren't? Wake up "kid", the jokes on you. Your remarks were still chidish, and it only makes you look worse. If I were you, I would have just let me continue to think you were 12, at least then you'd get a pass for appearing so clueless. Oh, and while we're at it, lets not bypass the fact that you were COMPLETELY loud, wrong, and ignorant about the whole RFA deal. I can feel my braincells dying of each time I have to respond to you, so from here on out, I'll try to only engage discussion with other more knowledgable posters.</div>If you really think I give a fuck about you, your wrong. It's an online forum and I really could care less what you think about me. If I cared, I wouldn't be such a prick, but that's the way I am, deal with it.

 

I'm actually rooting for Comeback for a change. :drinks: btw, why should he care if someone thinks he's 12?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 25 2006, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm actually rooting for Comeback for a change. :drinks: btw, why should he care if someone thinks he's 12?</div>Wow, that says a lot. I'll drink to that :beerbang:

 

[quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66244' date='Aug 25 2006, 07:56 PM'][quote name='His Greatness' post='66242' date='Aug 25 2006, 08:40 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='66125' date='Aug 25 2006, 01:19 AM'][quote name='His Greatness' post='66082' date='Aug 24 2006, 09:35 PM']There was one winner in this trade IMO:Atlanta Yeah, all of you commenting on his attitude - He never became a huge problem until this offseason...and it was all part of him wanting to get traded so it was rightfully so.Duckett is overrated IMO, the Skins had enough depth at back...and I don't know about the 4th rounder [/quote]We have enough depth? :LMAO: Betts is one man, where else do you see a potential backup RB in our lineup?[/quote]

Way to answer your own question [/quote]Depth does not mean 1 fucking person that could potentially take his place. Depth is the full amount of players in that position that could help the team in an emergency. As far as I'm concerned, Betts can't take the load by himself.[/quote]Wow, you're 'fucking' kind of shallow if you're thinking like that, for LaDell who 'fucking' backs CP up EFFICIENTLY (noting that the guy doesn't even get enough carrries), THAT'S enough depth, pal..you forgetting Cartwright? Cooley?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Aug 27 2006, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, you're 'fucking' kind of shallow if you're thinking like that, for LaDell who 'fucking' backs CP up EFFICIENTLY (noting that the guy doesn't even get enough carrries), THAT'S enough depth, pal..you forgetting Cartwright? Cooley?</div>Oh yea, because Cooley carries the ball all the time. Are you forgetting he is a TE now?