Who do you want at #11?

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Id still take Coward if he's there at 11?
     
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    I like Coward.
    I like Carter Bryant.

    Both have some unknowns because of court time for Bryant and level of competition plus half a dozen games for WSU with the labrum surgery for Coward. Their D and catch and shoot 3’s I believe in. Getting their own shot less so. Team play, “want to” and work ethic look strong.

    At 11, I won’t be disappointed in either one.

    Since I like Payton Pritchard so much … and Jalen Brunson is a self-made stud who has been grinding for years at ½ an inch taller than Jase … and 2 of my 3 favorite PGs were not big (Steve Nash and John Stockton with the 3rd, and favorite, is Jason Kidd) … is Jase not only worth it at 11 but is he a dude?

    I would appreciate being convinced by a believer.
     
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    I won't be disappointed at all if they choose Demin. What that will mean is that they believe in his upside and that in time he'll overcome the obvious weaknesses that we've both noted. They're certainly in a better position to judge how he's trending (especially physically) then we are.

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    Not to mention Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and OG Anunoby. (And Rudy Gobert and Jaden McDaniels)
     
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    It's still the end of the world for some here for having slipped to #11. There will be plenty of good players available. I just hope we can hit on GREAT.
     
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    We need great. Probably a couple times.
     
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    CBS Sports:

    “Jase Richardson has a wide draft range because of an underwhelming height measurement at the NBA Draft Combine but it wouldn't surprise if he still snuck into the lottery. He plays bigger than his measurements with a silky scoring game and long reach on the defensive end to impact winning at a high level.”

    6’6” WS - and a near 8’3” reach
     
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    no...more...tiny...SG's...a decade of failure is enough
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Why give up a great pick for a guy like KD who is anti-chemistry? The guy is graphite; inert.
     
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    Jase compares favorably to these guys...
    https://tankathon.com/players/compa...ey--collin-sexton--cameron-payne--cj-mccollum

    Tiny SG have a role in the NBA and can be very valuable. The issue is when you try to expand their role beyond what is warranted or try to make them a big minute starter (ie -> CJ and Ant).

    I really like Jase as a prospect. If you pick him up at #16 with the intent for him being a scorer off the bench -> that is great value.
     
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    ok...you have probably classified him properly "scorer off the bench". He's not a PG; at best (or worst) he's a tweener. Measured at 6' 0.50'' w/o shoes. I sure wouldn't spend a lottery pick on him

    from that comparison, ncaa assist rates:

    Payne 37%
    Sexton 28%
    CJ 20%
    Maxey 19%
    Jase 14%

    Richardson't utility as a backup PG is pretty weak, and that's being kind

    as far as that 16th pick, if Orlando was willing to trade it for Simons, I'd think the trade would have already happened
     
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    Those numbers are skewed - his role was inconsistent for 1/2 of the season. Izzo’s system did him no favors:

     
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    Too bad he didn't get his dad's height.
     
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    Vecenie and his partner said they'd love Kasparas to Portland at 11 or even Carter Bryant.
     
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    I am not so sure about that. Similar to the trade deadline, it seems like they all like to wait until the last second. Maybe to cover their asses if someone unexpected drops to them at 16? Or maybe for the Blazers....in case someone offers more? (like an ending, contract?)
    Not sure
     
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    whenever a 6' guard that comes along as a top-20 prospect, there are loads and loads of rationalizations about why he'd be an exception, and loads of excuses for any deficiencies in his numbers. But for every Tyrese Maxey there are a dozen Shabazz Napier's.
     
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    Oralndo was in 8th seed position heading into the trade deadline and their offense was struggling. They could have lottery protected their pick and if not conveyed, substituted that Denver pick

    or maybe they weren't interested in offering their best 2025 1st; or maybe Cronin was demanding two firsts for Simons like he reportedly was for Grant. Or maybe Orlando is looking at their cap situation next season and believe that Simons is a way-too-expensive option and questionable upgrade
     
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    And two undersized guards never wins. The Cavs just found that out.
     
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    The more I look at this draft the more I hate everyone in it after the top5

    Queen is way too useless defensively at a position that demands defense/athleticism

    Denim isn't athletic enough and is super raw

    Coward is old and not elite at anything

    After having 7/3/7 picks in recent years I find this draft less exciting than any in awhile. Even though last year was crazy weak think I may have been more excited.

    Think I'll look more forward to trades with current NBA players or us hopefully breaking up this horrific Ayton Grant Ant big3 than a rookie we add.

    Would enjoy being convinced otherwise.
     
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    That might be why the team didn't care that much about tanking.
     
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