That guy fucking is a moron. There’s no saving him. They drafted two very good stay at home defenseman one of them is probably about a year away.
The Pens are not in great shape compared to most teams in the East. Will be interesting to see how he does as a HC.
The Pens maybe are going to finally realize they need to retool; they are very far off. On the plus side, they'll have the Rangers 1st round pick next year, so they'll be rooting for us to suck even more than usual, that's for sure. As for Miller, he'll never be a hitter or play up to his size IMO. It's a mindset thing to me, and his mindset is softer finesse, not tough and hitting (the Rangers have too many guys like that BTW). I may be proven wrong, but so far that's how I read Miller and his mindset/preferred style of play. The Rangers need to move some core guys out, so you have to pick a couple, that reasonably can be dealt (not Zibanejad) and move forward. I'm also not sure where Miller fits if cannot be the partner for Fox, you need Schneider in the top 4 I believe. And I don't trust Miller getting a big deal, which is what he'll get, over $6M per I'd guess.
Miller was 7th on the team in hits last year Chuck, Adam Fox is the guy who never was and never will be a hitter.
They're both softer finesse players IMO. Not saying I'm in love with Fox, but the difference is Fox scores a lot of points and QB's the PP, and Miller doesn't. I'm not saying +/- is the end all be all, but Fox was a +9 while Miller was a +0 this past season, and the prior season Fox was a +21 while Miller was a +5. The past two seasons combined Fox is a +30, Miller is a +5, pretty big difference. It's fair we disagree on Miller, I don't think he'll ever be a physical use the body guy, not his mental makeup, I think what you see is what you'll get from a physical POV. For the record, I do think Miller is a good player and can/will still improve his overall game. I wouldn't' trade him unless I get a very good return, if not I keep him. There is no trading Miller on the cheap IMO. I hope you are right, and if the Rangers keep Miller, he becomes a much more physical player and actually uses his great size, I'm skeptical it happens.
The Rangers used to complain he made them watch too much tape. Maybe that’s a good thing now so they can see how much they fuck up and how lazy they are.
In the last 5 years since K'Andre joined the Rangers only Trouba had more hits on the defensive unit but Miller's 661 were all softies because you say so? You do realize that the NHL defines a hit as a check that causes a loss of puck possession, not how loudly the boards rattle or if the guy needs medical treatment.
Great example of Fox's defensive ineptitude over the same 5 years, 162 hits. Adam's +/- is awful, 327 points scored but only a +95 so while K'Andre is a +49 he's scored 200 less points. GG and Lav both failed to get much scoring from the defense aside from Fox, hope Sullivan has a plan.
Watch the games dumbass. If you tell me Miller hits anybody hard you’re fucking clueless. I can’t ever remember him hitting somebody and being excited about it because he doesn’t hit anybody.
Especially considering Fox scores a lot of points on the PP, and he plays more minutes overall, and he plays against the other team's top line, I don't think stating he has essentially double the + rating of Miller over the past 5 years tells the story you think it does Panzer. Look, I have been critical of Fox also, he has not been the same player he was 2 or 3 years ago since he got hurt last season, but I also realize Fox is without a doubt above Miller, that's just reality. He's a former Norris winner, he is close to the top in defensive points every season, and he plays more minutes against the best players than Miller does, again that's all just reality. That doesn't mean if Miller improves his game he couldn't catch or be better than Fox, if Fox doesn't get back to his highest level/his game declines more, but right now today Fox has been and is better than Miller. The numbers show it, and I would say if you watched them play it shows as well. For better or worse, for his size Miller absolutely does play soft. That may be acceptable, or you can live with it, in that his game isn't built on hitting or being physical, it's more about smooth skating a long reach and moving the puck quickly, but it is troubling when he is also making a lot of mistakes and not scoring points and not being physical despite his size.
Don Lagreca think the Rangers should deal Panarin, especially because the odds of getting Zibanejad to waive his NMC and getting a team to take on his bad contract is very unlikely: Lagreca has the answer, but it’s a bigger bombshell and, perhaps, even more difficult to pull off than trying to force Zibanejad out of town. “What I keep coming back to, and it’s a major splash but I think it’s something that probably needs to happen, is do they address the possibility of trading Artemi Panarin?,” Lagreca asked. “He’s got a year left on his contract, he’s very attractive to some teams. If Chris Drury and Mike Sullivan want a north-south team, he’s not a north-south guy. So, as much as you’d hate to give up a guy that’s your leading scorer, is that the move that could now make it more J.T. Miller’s team?” I do think with only one season left Panarin is much easier to trade and get good value for, and with only one season left, I think Panarin would be much more open to waiving his NMC knowing he can leave wherever he goes after next season if he doesn't like it there. While I have not been a big advocate for dealing Panarin, as I have said many times ANYTHING is on the table to me, and if the best way to shake up the core, and get some value back, is deal Panarin, I'm on board. Plus, it is HIGHLY unlikely he is re-signed, so he's gone after next season anyway AND trading him takes a huge $11.642M off the cap and gives Drury great flexibility this summer. Could be a win win, and allow the Rangers to add better North-South type players, less skill for more bite, which the Rangers need badly. On Krieder, I may view trading him differently than some. If I could get out from the remaining two years of his $6.5M per deal, I would trade him for nothing, getting the cap flexibility is worth trading him for a bag of pucks IMO. And with that said, I think the Rangers could get a decent 3rd line grinder for Kreider, which they badly need. I am very focused on being open to dealing some skill for some grit and bite, it's what the Rangers lack big time, especially a playoff bite type 3rd line.
I like seeing this from Friedman: “The Rangers are a team to keep an eye on the next few weeks,” NHL insider Elliotte Friedman said on the 32 Thoughts podcast. “Drury is telling teams he is ready for offers.” “The Rangers are considering an awful lot of things,” Friedman said. “After the season they had last year, there are very few things that are off the table.” BOLD BOLD BOLD - that's my key word for this offseason (aggressive is # 2).
Just have to hope Sullivan lights a fire under some of these guys to get on track. I saw something that Detroit and LA could be teams to watch for Miller.
There is no denying Adam's offensive ability, that's all he brings to the table and he's certainly the #1 dman on the Rangers but I think he's hit his ceiling, still think K'Andre has more potential than we've seen, after Fox I think he and Schneider are significantly better than any of the other defensemen on the roster. Last 3 postseasons the Rangers have been involved in Fox is goalless and with the amped up physicality of the playoffs an absolute zero defensively. I watch the games and bring stats to back my opinions while your argument against is you can't remember seeing any big hits by K'Andre while freely admitting you turn most games off early - good stuff as Chuck would say.
Miller is reported to be on the trade block from all sources. Rangers aren't moving a defenseman like that if he actually hit anybody with authority. He's Tom Poti 2. Pussy. His girlfriend is a high maintenance bitch as well. Get rid of him at all costs.
I had no idea K'Andre's girlfriend was high maintenance, another piece of Dumpecdotal evidence. The Rangers don't have anyone on their defensive unit that hits with authority, Miller had 150 more hits than Lindgren who is a defensive minded player. The NHL stat for hits has nothing to do with intensity, simply a legal check that causes a turnover. Look at the defensemen on the Rangers roster, there is a huge drop in talent after Schneider/Miller. I'm hoping Robertson gets a contract offer from Drury, I think he could crack the lineup if he can stay healthy.
