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Dame as the PG starts with the ball every play jacked up over 17 shots while hitting a weak 44%. 14 Bucks players shot better than Dame.

Giannis led the NBA in makes on over 60% while only shooting two more shots per game.

If anything Dame should have been shooting less and Giannis more.

Dames just not on the same level as a well rounded championship level role playing PG. Jrue Holiday, Haliburton, Caruso, Derrick White, etc are all clearly superior.

Dames better at jacking up a bunch of shots on a non contending team and scoring more points. Kind of like Carmelo Anthony.

 

If you have Giannis's skill set and you can't run the pick and roll with Dame Lillard you're not a good teammate.

Giannis has an MVP because he was naturally gifted with incredible talent and ability. That doesn't make him a good teammate, even though it does make him an incredible force.

 

Giannis role is to help the Bucks win as he did scoring the most shots per game in the NBA on over 60% shooting. Also he provides great defense.

His role isn't to setup Lillard offense.

He won a title playing this same way with Jrue.

Dames just not a PG on the level of those other role players. Glad we were able to trade him away before he finally got exposed.

 

When you shoot 46% from three and make 7 more than the opponent, the planets Arte lined up.
Been pretty simple process with the Pacers, try and make 20 threes a game, push, and play solid defense.

 

The pick and roll wouldn't be setting Dame up (though he would certainly score more efficiently than what was happening pre-injury). It would up Giannis's scoring as well.

The whole team would score more. Every person on that team would score more and probably more efficiently.

It doesn't make any sense to put Dame on a team that doesn't run pick and roll. Since they don't seem to do it, he's going to be less effective.

 

Well the blazers fans know you are cheating on the Blazers with the L*kers. But do the L*kers fans know you are cheating on the L*kers with the Pacers?

HCP flying to his next gig listening to The Beach Boys… “Round round get around, I get a round… I get arooooouund”

 

So now your an expert coach?

Giannis scored the most shots per game in the NBA. Change the offense and does he do the same?

Who knows, maybe your right. But that's still not a good indication of Dames abilities if he can only succeed in one type of offense structured to him. Many all-star level NBA players could succeed in a varieties of offensive schemes next to Giannis - we've seen them do it. Dame can't.

 

Yes Giannis would score more and more efficiently running pick and roll with Dame Lillard. Dame would also score more and more efficiently.

I don't know if knowing that makes me an expert coach. That's just obvious. It literally couldn't be guarded if they had even a decent shooter on the opposite side of the court.

You'd have to overplay Dame to get him to give up the ball early (closer to half court). But if you do that and Giannis cuts middle he's going to dunk it every possession against the naked backside.

Basketball is not complicated. Especially when you have players as capable as Giannis and Dame.

Running the pick and roll would be setting Giannis up to score a lot more than he does now. I know that's incredible to think about.

In doing so his teammates would likely score a lot more as well.

Nobody is discounting Giannis as an individual player. He's incredibly capable. But he's not getting as much out of his team, because he's not being a good (smart?) teammate.

That has to come from Giannis. He's the one not doing what's best for the team.

Or maybe it's coaching. I thought Doc would be a good enough coach to understand the pick and roll... Maybe I was wrong. But they didn't run it for the prior coach either.

 

100%

 

lol Giannis won a title, Dame has not. But Giannis is the problem with their team not being successful?

 

Giannis is awesome. No doubt about it. He fills up the stats sheet. I would have loved if we had drafted him.
Yet......his outside shooting knocks him down a peg in my eyes in terms of a superstar. If the Suns don't melt down defensively in those 2 middle quarters in game 5 in the finals, the narrative of Giannis is probably different. (and probably for Ayton as well) Up to that point the home team was kicking ass every game.

 

Completely agree.
There are 2 sides to the court.

 

interesting thread content lately considering the title:

* Stren is a shit moderator
* Dame is a shit player

 

SGA taking 30 shots is ridiculous. And pulling your bigs at crunch time was huge, as OKC was destroyed on the boards, especially when it mattered. Chet was not good in the game either.

 

Don't think Knicks have the assets to make a serious offer.

 

If you have a better idea than them running the pick and roll I'd love to hear it.

They both have all the talent and skill necessary to do it. At the highest level it's ever been done.

They have decent shooters who could play off of it as well.

What alternative are you proposing would be more successful?

 

I would have loved to have seen Dame with that kind of talent around him when he was here.