Who do you want at #11?

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Somehow your trying to change the definition of BPA to be contingent on a teams need.

    The idea of BPA is relevant to an average NBA team, not your particular team. So think of it as how the player fits on the other 29 teams. BPA has nothing to do with your teams own roster. Need is how the player fits today on your own roster.

    The reason BPA is a good strategy is teams needs change much faster than expected. Remember when we made the WCF? Two years later our GM was fired. A year and a half later Dame was traded. Two years later the team is for sale.

    Rosters chance much faster than expected in the NBA. Draft picks are mostly 19 year olds that won't hit their prime for half a decade.
     
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    How is that any different than anyone else in the draft (besides Flagg)?
    Yes - Noa may end up being a bust. But so can Demin and Coward and Ace, VJ, KJ, Tre, Kon, CMB, and Queen.... (hopefully you get the point).
     
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    Which shows the problem with player comps. As soon as you attach a past player to a prospect, most people will then judge everything by the comps.
    That's why when I try to make a player comp, I make sure to point out why I made the comp and it's never because of the finished product. If anyone was ever able to predict comps based on the finished product, there would never be busts or steals in the draft.
    Player comps can make you look really bad or really good and you really have no control on what a prospect becomes. I approach it as if I'm describing a prospect to someone with no first hand knowledge of that player and I want to give an idea of what their physical makeup and playing style "resembles".
     
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    agree, especially now days when they come out so young. Actually, with college NIL, I see more guys going to school and/or staying, because of the money. Flagg I think made 8 million for playing 1 year at Duke.
     
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    So two weeks until the Draft. Do we have any real new candidates?
    How are we doing on the workouts? Do you guys feel they are doing well?
    I was wondering if Splitter and Crawford might be in on the workouts?
     
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    I made a joke earlier about wanting Flagg at #11 but that touches on some of the reality of the situation, we don't know who will be available. There are more then a few players I'd be really happy that they drafted, some others I'd be trusting management has good reason to believe they're leveling up in skills &/or athleticism & some others discussed here I'd not be happy about. What makes me optimistic is that I've generally agreed with Cronin & Co.'s player decisions & am sure there will be some really good options still available when they select. I honestly haven't been so optimistic about the PTB in a long time and this draft leadup is proving a lot of fun. I'll answer the OP thread question when we're a bit closer and likely have a better feel for who they're selecting from

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    New mocks continue to pin Demin to Portland. Prepare yourselves.

    Hope we can get #16 to get another guy.
     
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    the Blazer poster at RealGM implied that Demin may be leading the pack in the Blazer F.O. Not a sure bet at all, but the name mentioned the most
     
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    Love the thought of Demin personally. Can basically size wise slot in 1-4, which gives us a lot of lineup flexibility. Giddey style playmaker potential, but with the thought of having a better looking shot at least,and more defensive potential.
     
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    This draft is unusual. Prospects in the 5-15 range are pretty close in potential. I would guess that a lot of teams are going out of their way not to let everyone know who they want. So if everyone is led to believe we want Demin, I am betting that we want someone else.
    Or at least I am hoping that is the case
     
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    Seems like recent drafts the Blazers direction has been leaked often. Sharpe, Scoot, Clingan.
     
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    Yeah it's almost like our assistant GM/draft guru is ESPN's draft guru's best friend or something.
     
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    If ESPN has us taking Demin on their next mock, it’s probably him.
     
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    Yes, but as I said, this year's draft seems unusual. When we drafted Scoot, we weren't too concerned about SA and Charlotte taking him. We would have been happy with Miller or Wemby.

    This year feels different if they have their sights on a particular player. Drafting at 11 is different than drafting at 7, even if it is just 4 extra spots. Easier for teams to jump ahead of you via a trade.
     
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    There has been lots of smoke around Demin and the Blazers... he may be their guy. He is supposed to have worked on his shot and did shoot very well in the drills at the combine. If his athleticism was better, he'd be gone before #11... but thats the issue. My guess is at least initially he's going to be a weak link on D that teams will target

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    Yeah, it all comes down to his D and who he is going to guard. He could turn out to be great, but I don't see him as anything but a backup PG. Which, granted, we do need.
     
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    Demin is young and will need time but having a 6’9 point guard off the bench would be nice.

    If we draft him I hope we trade for another 1st to address the shooting problem. If Ant goes we need shooting.
     
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    I think Coward fills that shooting need description, and he is big enough to do it at both SG and SF. The question is, will he be there at 16? The mocks have him as low as 23. I have a hard time believing that to be true.
     
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    Agreed I just saw one with him going 9.
     
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    Demin has the higher ceiling between him and Coward but I really like Coward. Would be cool to see them trade #16 and change for the rights to Coward or Bryant. But then again, I kind of doubt they'd get another wing after taking Demin. Fleming could be the guy at 16.
     
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