Politics Florida's Plan to Replace Migrant Workers With Children Falls Apart

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    A bill that would have loosened child labor laws in Florida has died in the state Senate.

    The proposal came as Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a Republican, touted using teenagers as a replacement for the labor of migrants who are in the country illegally.

    Newsweek has contacted DeSantis' office for comment via email.

    Why It Matters
    President Donald Trump has pledged to deport millions of people in the United States with no legal status, while critics say deportations on such a scale could lead to labor shortages.

    The bill would have permitted 16- and 17-year-olds to work overnight on school days and work longer than an eight-hour day before a school day. Some 14- and 15-year-olds would also have been allowed to work those hours.

    Proponents said the bill aligned with federal child labor law and would help combat labor shortages, but critics warned that it posed serious risks of exploitation.

    What to Know
    If approved, Senate Bill 918 would have removed restrictions on the number of hours that 16- and 17-year-olds can work per week during the school year.

    It would also have scrapped required 30-minute meal breaks and allowed children as young as 14 who are homeschooled or enrolled in virtual school to work overnight shifts.

    Under Florida law, 16- and 17-year-olds are limited to up to 30 hours a week of work when school is in session unless a parent or school superintend waives that restriction. They also cannot work before 6:30 a.m. or after 11 p.m. on a school day.

    The language in the bill came from staff within DeSantis' office, Orlando Weekly reported, citing records it obtained.

    Supporters of the measure included Moms for Liberty and the National Federation of Independent Business. However, the legislation faced opposition from the Florida AFL-CIO, the state's largest federation of labor unions. Its opponents also included the American Civil Liberties Union, the NAACP and student activist groups.

    The bill was approved by the Florida House in April, largely along party lines.

    However, the Senate version of the bill failed to advance before Florida's legislative session concluded on Friday.

    What People Are Saying
    Republican state Senator Jay Collins, the bill's sponsor, said the measure was about parental rights: "We should let them say what's best for their kids at 16- to 17-year-olds, that's what we're saying by this."

    Republican state Senator Joe Gruters said: "I think we need to let kids be kids."

    Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: "Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that's how it used to be when I was growing up."

    What Happens Next
    The bill to loosen child labor laws in Florida is effectively dead, but it remains to be seen whether lawmakers will pursue it in a future session.

    https://www.newsweek.com/florida-plan-replace-migrant-workers-children-falls-apart-2068584
     
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    What a shit bill. Glorified child labor. Long hours. Nighttime shifts alone. No lunch. Wtf?!
     
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    Insanity. Literally trying to get the kids to drop out of high school and work in the fields.
     
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    Durring the summer, when I was 12 I'd be up at 5am catching a berry bus then later beans. Did this for number of years, flex for playing ball and no week-ends. At 15 I started bussing tables at Riverside West restaurant on Front street down tow. Took a bus.
    While in hs early mid sixites the drop out rate was pretty high and many of them went in service at 17 or worked.
     
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    I think all kids 13-15 must work at least 20 hours a week somewhere during summer. Its the younger years they learn a work ethic not late 20's/30's.
     
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    Exactly this. Dropout rates would skyrocket.

    In Finland there are no dropout rates. Not the dropout rates are low. Everybody graduates.

    There's no reason any of our kids should drop out. We're the wealthiest country in the world.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    My brothers and I did the exact same thing, strawberries, beans and raspberries. It sucked. When I graduated from grade school (still 13 years old) on a Friday, my dad told me to enjoy the weekend because on the following Monday I was starting 40 hour work weeks until school started in the fall. The next three months (and every summer after that until I went into the Navy) were spent tearing out furnaces and boilers, snorting soot and asbestos and trying to stay awake at the dinner table. The only "good" part was being able to "sleep in" until almost seven, instead of getting up at five. It was a struggle for a punk kid, but I learned how to work, and all the other lessons that came with a job. It kept my brothers and I out of trouble and put money in our pockets. But the bottom line is in the end it's up to the parents (and the kids). It's not up to the state to force kids to work or to create onerous conditions that abuse kids who do want to work. Loosening up the restrictions are a gold plated invitation to abuse. DeSantis is just another out of touch, fascist POS that will do whatever it takes to try and stay relevant.......
     
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    But we also lead most of the world in stupid representatives per capita.
     
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    Disagree. I think kids should be kids and get to enjoy their best years. Kids can show their work ethic through their schooling/studies. It doesnt have to be a crappy job. Had an ex gf tell me in high school how much more mature she was than me because she had a crappy job at a local restaurant after school.

    My work ethic today is a billion times stronger than hers. I've been in high level management and technical positions sometimes working up to 80 hours a week. That was mostly done throughout my 20's and 30's. I demoted myself last year back to 40/week so I can actually enjoy time with my kids.
     
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    OI donthink many dio as compared tp years ago, as there are magnet schools, and other types offered for kids.
     
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    If you'd just send them off to work in the fields or factories, you could still be working 80 hour weeks.

    barfo
     
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    Something funny, My wide and I were taking a drive up hwy 212 through Damascus and I spotted a sign that read "Paradise Acres" Garden and landscape, the very same place and name that used to be berry fields and cows. That brought back memories! 64 years ago...
     
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    It is a great nursery. Nice people. Sounded like they really needed some help a few months ago.
     
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    Kids during summer having jobs, fine. Kids taking place of adults isn't.
    Don't make summer jobs mandatory FFS!
    I absolutely hated high school so took required subjects in summer in order to graduate in 3 years. I think that was better for me than picking oranges. Oh, also did babysitting which I hated and house cleaning.
     
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    I've deliberately not worked over 40 hours a week (and avoided long commutes) whenever possible so that I can spend that extra time with my kids.

    We don't have a lot of money. But I wouldn't trade that time for anything.
     
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    I commend you! I have 14 grandkids within spitting distance, some are in that 13-15 range all super kids. A few of them are so into games to get them to help out is like pulling teeth. Parents both work and are pretty easy on them for pulling weight around the house and such. A few of the others also like games and play sports, but are responsible for chores, like yard work, feeding livestock, and helping out when asked. It takes all type to have a family and community. Love them all the same....Have a neighbor gal single full time working mom with three teenagers and ive evre seen them mow the lawn put garbage/ recycling out or help mom with groceries when she's been to costco.
     
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