Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

God has nothing to do with it

 

Call me crazy but the country who has attacked 6 of its neighbors in the past year, still committing a genocide and is armed with nuclear weapons, is the bad guy.

If Israel wants to attack Iran, let them pay for it and keep the U.S. out of it when our people can't even have healthcare.

Anyone who disagrees should not be trusted.

 

I don't think I want Iran to be run by Bibi, Putin, and Trump's friends... I doubt that leads to more peace...

 

So you're one of those 'Murrica Firsters" apparently. As long as you have money in your pockets and 'Murrica has "hegemony" it's okay for people to die. Got it. Because 'Murrica is the only country that matters. No wonder we are so fucked.

 

"Israel’s strikes on Iran killed at least 78 people, including senior military officials, Iran’s UN envoy Amir Saeid Iravani said during a UN Security Council meeting on Friday.

More than 320 people were injured, most of them civilians, Iravani said.

Iravani placed blame on the US for sharing intelligence and “political support” with Israel.

“Those who support this regime with the United States at the forefront must understand that by aiding and enabling this crime by they share full responsibility for the consequences,” he said.

Iravani also accused the US of supplying weapons Israel used in the attacks

“We will not forget that our people lost their lives as a result of the Israeli attacks with American weapons,” Iravani said."

 

Ok guys..so let Iran have nuclear weapons. I guess you also wouldn't mind them nuking Israel or at least let Hamas and the Palestinians kill all Israelis from the river to the sea..
Sure.. no problem.
All you care about is human lives.
Right.

 

Financial benefits for Persians, Arabs, & Jews.....

 

I seriously doubt anyone said that.

 

In the big picture a small thing but any word about Deni? He would have done mandatory military service but I believe they are still reservists afterwards. I do realize in all out war there are much bigger concerns than whether a Blazer could be called up.

 

It was known and not a surprise Israel alone can't remove / destroy all nuclear facilities.
However, this attack did send Iran's abilty to weaponize nuclear arms back for substantial period of time, while in addition - cleared Iran anti-air systems.
The reality is - now more than ever Iran is at a tipping point in which they need to decide of their future. Go all out against Israel and risk loosing the regime, or reach a nuclear deal forefiting any option for weaponizing nuclear energy but staying in power.
Either way - looking at it via global geopolitics - the question is who will be the 'landlord' of this area (middle east) - Saudia Arabia along with USA and Israel, or Iran along with China and Russia..

 

Israel has been telling us Iran is 15 minutes away from a nuclear weapon since 1995. How people still believe this garbage I have no idea...

Maybe when Israel gives up it's secret nuclear program, Iran will too. Since they're the ones actually committing a genocide right now...

 

Iran is the one chanting 'Death to Israel, Death to America'. Israel has nothing against the Iranian people and actually like them a lot.

Israel is not doing any 'genocide' in Gaza.
If it was - there wouldnt be any Gazan in gaza by now don't you think?

Once you have a neigbouring country willing and able to go house to house and kill you - you unfortunatly must remove the threat/ability.

Sorry for the world suffering from this conflict, but frankly - there is no moral question at all for this. Israel must win this for a better world (IMO).
I do think the Moral campus got lost in the past few years and people get confused in not realising there is no 'pure good' or 'pure evil'. Only intrests. My intrests is for western democratic values that seperate religion from regime to hold and prevail.

 

Rhetoric is not action. If we were going by that, then how do you explain "Death to the Arabs" on repeat by the Israelis?

By that standard the Nazis were not doing a genocide to the Jews, right? Give me a break, dude. The international courts and every other nation outside of the U.S. and Europe agree that it's a genocide. You don't have to kill everyone for it to be a genocide. Go take a look at the definition.

Every allegation is an admission. Israel has been doing this for 70+ years.

Is having a racist ethnostate a Western democratic value? I think not. That's what Israel is. All of Israel's actions in the past two years are making it harder for peaceful Jews across the world to exist. They aren't improving the world. They are making it more dangerous for everyone.

 

There are a number of arab countries that want the Islamic regime in Iran gone, and are turning their heads hoping it happens soon. They know Iran/Mullahs do not want peace in the region. Now's the time to give back to the Iranian people their country.

 

Apologies - didn't grasp the quoting mechanic here well yet.

"Death to Arabs" was never a call by the Israeli leaders. Iran Leader preaches for it often. Rhetoric is meaningful depending on who says it and their role.

By that standard the Nazis were not doing a genocide to the Jews, right? Give me a break, dude. The international courts and every other nation outside of the U.S. and Europe agree that it's a genocide. You don't have to kill everyone for it to be a genocide. Go take a look at the definition.

The difference is - The Nazi wanted to kill Jews. They wanted the Jews annihilation.
I can promise you 100%!!!! - the minute Hamas releases all living hostages and dead bodies - The war will end.
Ask yourself how come Hamas is not "surrendering" if this is a Genocide.

Every allegation is an admission. Israel has been doing this for 70+ years.

Doing what? Living aside people who want them dead? yeah..

Is having a racist ethnostate a Western democratic value? I think not. That's what Israel is. All of Israel's actions in the past two years are making it harder for peaceful Jews across the world to exist. They aren't improving the world. They are making it more dangerous for everyone.[/QUOTE]

What differs Germany from France? Answer that simple question without feeling guilt for having a culture of people united together..
Lets say all of India population wants to move to America and live in the U.S. Would it become an Ethnostate?