Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

Should we start a Midwest Religious War thread? Just to be proactive?

 

It is actually quite simple to prove I can promise that. How come?

Israel IS INDEED reliant on the U.S (Arms/Economics etc'). If U.S decides to stop aiding Israel - the war will end.
But - luckily U.S leaders are not as dumb as they perhaps may seem to others in oppositon (both Biden and Trump) decide to back Israel because they know that as long as Hamas holds these Hostages - Israel has legitimate reason for active actions.
Once you take away this reason - U.S leaders (no matter democ/repub) will absolutly tell Israel it no longer has legitimate reason for ongoing active actions.
Easy, simple and clear.

 

I said reliant. Not supported by.
Big difference.

Geo-politics.
It is a thing.

Fluffy

 

Already do, Notre Dame Battles Northwestern.

 

I mean, the Holocaust lasted 12 years... Unless you're suggesting that wasn't a genocide?

Just like if we have people willing to run planes into our buildings we need to give up all of our privacy rights and many other rights? Because that will make things so much better?

Regardless of how many innocent children need to be killed? Really?

I'm sorry, we just disagree. Israel, doing what they are in Gaza, will create more hate and more people will attack them for longer.

 

I don't believe that for an instant. This war is happening for political reasons within Israel. The Hamas actions were the excuse Bibi was waiting for.

Even if he were to pull out of Gaza, he would engage elsewhere. And then someone from Gaza would begin attacking Israel again. Because they have every reason to hate Israel, and even if they aren't capable, somebody will use that.

 

I can totally understand where you are coming from and why you think that way. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do or say to sway you from these views and perceptions.
I believe these ideations are mainly because the western world is receiving it's information from the following sources: 1. Instagram/TikTok/X/Other Social media platforms that easily turn into echo chambers reinforcing narrative someone is paying money behind it to perpetuate it.
2. Qatar backed Media outlets (Al Jazeera).

If I was to gather my info from these source - I would think the same as you. (I do get the info and know their claims and reporting).

Try reading and gathering info for the next 3 months via other sources such as "YNET" (https://www.ynetnews.com/category/3083) [Israeli source] and "Iran International" (https://www.iranintl.com/en) [Iranian Source].

By being exposed to these sources - you won't change your mind necessarily - but you will see in better detail how other perceive these conflicts and get better understanding of the complexity of the situation.

Some reading about the attack and it's current status:

https://www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/r1imtjf7ge#autoplay

 

S2 is the only social media I use. Don't presume.

 

I appreciate the sources, but I don't get my news from social media. I read many sources and I pay attention to the bias of those sources.

 

Come on, do the rest of the Ground News ad read!

 

Ground News does a pretty good job, don't you think?

 

This kinda of how I feel..

 

Hmmmm.....that's kinda how I imagined you looked.....

 

The Iranian regime is a theocratic Shia Islamic totalitarian government under Sharia law. I read somewhere the average age in Iran is 32 and most dont want the theocratic /shria, death to Israel & USA in power. Im hopeful their days are numbered.

 

I will not provide TMI, but I spend a lot of time in our buliding bomb shelter and can hear the interceptors launching and explosions of those rockets not shot down.
Haven't slept a night since everything started.
Odd thing is during the day it is relativly quiet - but around 21:00 we get barraged every 4-5 hours until the morning..

 

Trump vetoed Israeli plan to kill Iran's supreme leader, US officials say

I wish he'd veto the Israeli plans to kill Palestinian children...