We sucked But hey, going back to last year, the Steelers are 0-7, Colts are like 1-12, and Raiders are 5-0ish. Mark Brunell sucked... Jason Campbell looked good again :whistling: HELLO GIBBS???
I didn't get to see the game on TV but I saw highlights on SC, Archuleta looked good.Start Campbell vs. the Ravens though!
I think you guys give Campbell too much credit. I honestly don't think he will do that good in his career.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 27 2006, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think you guys give Campbell too much credit. I honestly don't think he will do that good in his career.</div>Not to mention he was terrible in the Game against the Jets, and I have to wonder how much better he could have done this week when the Redskins 'Got owned'.
Damn and I thought the Ravens had a bad game. You guys got killed too. I heard your oline couldn't block for shit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 27 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>venom Campbell looked good in the Jets game too </div>Since when is 6/13 for 83 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT good?Under 50% completion percentage.More INT's then TD's. :whistling:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Enough Alarm For a Wakeup CallBy Michael WilbonSunday, August 27, 2006; Page E01FOXBOROUGH, Mass. If you want to believe, based on preseason play, that the Redskins are more pretender than contender, there's plenty of circumstantial evidence to back you up -- and it's mounting.The Redskins, after stinking the joint out here in New England, are 0-3 in the preseason. The starters have trailed in all three games when they left the field. One of the teams the Redskins lost to, the Jets, figure to be an absolute wreck this season. Challenged by their Hall of Fame coach to put forth a better effort last week, the Redskins promptly went out and looked like somebody's junior varsity in a 41-0 loss to the Patriots. The Redskins didn't do anything well. They were bad "all the way across the board," to use Joe Gibbs's exact words.They didn't play defense, couldn't run, couldn't throw, couldn't protect the quarterback even from a vanilla pass rush. The first-team offense has yet to score a point with one preseason game left. Gibbs said he wanted to give a "big thumbs up" to the Patriots and the way they played. He didn't need to stay it, but the Redskins have earned a big thumbs down in preseason, with only one game -- Thursday at home against the Ravens -- remaining.Gibbs was very restrained in his comments afterward and gave his boys something of a verbal postgame hug when he said, "I like being in tough times with this bunch of guys." But it's hard to turn a deaf ear to a coach's concerns when the team looks as bad as the Redskins did Saturday night.The Redskins were worse this week than last, if only for the reason that the starters played into the third quarter. The backups, scrubs and hopefuls couldn't be blamed for this.The offense, whose impotence has drawn most of the attention so far, looked puny again, but no more so than the defense, which made sure Tom Brady and the Patriots got in a good tuneup. The Patriots' offense looked to be in at least Labor Day form as it went up and down the field without defensive resistance.Sure, the Redskins' defense was playing without three starters; Phillip Daniels, Cornelius Griffin and Shawn Springs were all sidelined with injuries and it's quite easy to make the case that they are the three most important players to the defense. At least we've seen enough of Gregg Williams's defense over the last couple of seasons in real games to have every reason to believe that, come Week 1 of the regular season, it will be at least as good as it was last season.But giving the offense any benefit of the doubt based on what we've seen so far is very, very risky.I must admit that I don't believe in drawing any important conclusions from preseason football. That these NFL exhibitions draw so many fans and such excessive media coverage speaks to just how thoroughly the NFL has been able to brainwash America's sports fans, not to mention the saps I like to call producers and editors. The NFL has both created and filled a need for football, which is scary on several levels. But that harangue is best saved for another day.The primary reason I don't believe in making grand declarations based on NFL preseason games is that coaches aren't trying their hardest to win.Don't get me wrong, they're not trying for the right reason. To showcase all the good stuff in the preseason would be stupid beyond words. Why do that in games that don't count in the standings with players who won't be on the team in three weeks?It's not just a matter of opinion that coaches don't go all-out.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Aug 28 2006, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wilbon called them scrubs? :LMAO: I gotta love that shit.</div>He was talking about those 5th string nobodies when he said that...
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='66608' date='Aug 27 2006, 11:19 PM'] I would say that statement is true. I don't put a lot of stock in trying to win the preseason but you do put all of your stock in see how your team plays in them. Especially the first time. And the 3rd preseason game is the most important. I watch the game and it didn't seem like the Redskins were clicking at all on offense or defense. But to be fair to Washington, I don't think they will start clicking until after the first 2 or 3 games. Preseason is seeing where you are and because of all the injuries that happens, you don't want to use your guys too much. But the regular season, especially the first couple games, you can really do a lot of fine tuning your team because you have all your starters playing the whole game. The danger in that is if you lose those first couple games if you have a fairly hard schedule, it'll be hard to overcome it. Not to say the Redskins can't because they can.But the one thing that I think the Redskins can't compromise is the running game. And without Portis you're doing just that. I think he is the key...So being a Cowboy's fan, I'm not as worried when you have someone other than Portis. But don't get me worry, I'm still worried about the Redskins just for their defense alone but I think it will take a little longer than expect for all of it to come together.And the BIGGEST difference in that game against New England was the Pats time of possession. I think that hurt the defense a lot or a little depending on how you look at it.
I'm not worried til we're below .500 in the regular season, ok?guys always jump the gun on this kind of crap in the pre-season when it doesn't even matter..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Aug 28 2006, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not worried til we're below .500 in the regular season, ok?guys always jump the gun on this kind of crap in the pre-season when it doesn't even matter..</div>JHair,If anyone is jumping the gun, it's the Redskins. You do not give a 3rd round pick for a runningback who hasn't prove anything. That's a big sign that Washington is concerned about their running situation. Portis maybe back but he will not be 100% for the rest of the year and that's a concern. By no means am I trying to demean the Redskins, but you can't tell me you're not the slightest concern about the play of the preseason and compound that with the running game?
Portis played hurt with his shoulders all of last season, the guy plays through pain, he is accustomed to it. I am not worried about him. We throw away draft picks left and right because we do not build through the draft, but through trades and FA. Duckett is probably better than any 3rd Rd. draft pick we could get in the upcoming draft. With him, we give Portis a chance to heal up which is great. A lot of teams go right to their backups when a starter gets injured, why not replace them with a starting calibur guy when you can?
I don't care if it's preseason or not, if your 1st string offense goes 3 games without any points, that's cause for concern.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Aug 27 2006, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>going back to last year, the Steelers are 0-7, Colts are like 1-12, and Raiders are 5-0ish.</div>Good point, Punisher :thumbsup: venom, Campbell looked good. All his passes were on target, and he made good decisions.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Aug 28 2006, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All the points other teams have scored so far in the pre-season are meaningless.</div>You 100% right! The points are meaningless. But it's the fact that the other teams are moving the ball. Now I can care less about the second half during preseason games. But when your first team offense/defense are playing the other teams first team offense/defense and you're not scoring but other teams, especially the Jets, are than you have to be concerned. Again you bring up a good point about Portis. I'll be the first in line to say that Portis is a WARRIOR! I wish he was on the Cowboys, but he dislocated his shoulder. This is totally different from this other shoulder problems and he knows it. In fact he mention it a few times that teams are going to target his shoulder. When you're talking about shoulder dislocation, man that's a pretty tricky injury that will last.Now I don't agree with what you said about Duckett. I think about best he's forever a back up. Now in saying all this, I DO NOT discredit the Redskins from being a playoff contending team. From my experience in coach, Joe Gibbs is too great of a coach to think that the Redskins will not be ready with or without Portis or whoever's else is injuried. But I can tell you also from experience (and NO, I'm not trying to compare college to the pro's) but he is very concerned about Portis and the preseason. As with any coach. Just don't overlook the perseason performance. It doesn't matter if you win or lose them because that's not what really matters. It's how you play in them. And I didn't see much of anything beside a few good passes here an there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CipherCowboy @ Aug 28 2006, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Aug 28 2006, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All the points other teams have scored so far in the pre-season are meaningless.</div>Now in saying all this, I DO NOT discredit the Redskins from being a playoff contending team. From my experience in coach, Joe Gibbs is too great of a coach to think that the Redskins will not be ready with or without Portis or whoever's else is injuried.</div>Joe Gibbs Career Pre-Season Records:1981 3-11982 0-4 Super Bowl Champs1983 2-2 NFC Champs1984 2-2 Division Champs1985 4-01986 3-1 NFC Runnerup1987 3-1 Super Bowl Champs1988 3-11989 4-11990 3-1 2nd round1991 1-3 Super Bowl Champs1992 1-4 2nd round2004 3-22005 1-3 2nd round2006 0-3 ???And about Duckett, even if he is what you say, fovever a backup, having him taking carries for a couple weeks may be necessary until Portis can heal up, he's still better than Betts and Cartwright are, and the carries he's taking for Portis are going to be productive both for our rushing offense and Portis' rehabilitation time.
