Trade Blazers trade Simons for Holiday

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  1. superfly4201

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    We always knew we would
     
    superfly4201, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:18 PM
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    Here is the rest of this: This season, if Holiday has a bounce back year, his value increases way beyond what they gave up: a poor-fitting guard on an expiring deal in Anfernee Simons, plus two distant seconds. So, maybe they could flip Holiday before the 2026 trade deadline to a contender. Or maybe they keep Holiday until the final year of his deal in 2027-28. At that point, he'll have a juicy $37M expiring deal that could be combined with assets to go get a star. Teams need salaries to make big trades. Jrue becomes that piece after only two seasons. Acquiring Holiday isn't a misread of the Portland timeline. It's about the future: Turn Simons into a player who fits better now, helps facilitate development, and gives them a tradable salary when it's winning time.
     
    UKRAINEFAN, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:18 PM
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    Feels like Nico can do a mean Joe Cronin impression over the phone...
     
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    In the same post O'Connor downgrades Ant's value because he was on an expiring contract and talks about how "juicy" Holiday's contract will be in like two and half year.

    Not great analysis. Overdoing the Cronin glazing for sure.
     
    blazerkor, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:18 PM
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    No way Jrue is coming off the bench behind Scoot.
     
    Phatguysrule, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:19 PM
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    So now we are getting KAT?
     
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    No thanks.
     
    Phatguysrule, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:20 PM
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    I honestly don't mind Scoot coming off the bench behind Jrue...

    Especially if we're trying to compete like everybody says we were to end the season.

    Just as well take a bunch of swings and do as good as you can. And then when the team gets too old in a few years the new owner can rebuild.
     
    Phatguysrule, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:21 PM
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    Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe look to move him at the deadline to someone who thinks they're a solid guard away from competing.

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    STOMP, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:21 PM
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    Surprised there's such a negative reactions to this deal here. I like it for next season as our good defense gets much better. Going from one of our worst defenders to NBA defensive team level. Seems like he will also accept letting Scoot run the team better than Ant would.

    Yes it's a bit concerning that salary will age bad with this deal.

    However if Holiday plays well at the start of the year he has the track record to fetch a much bigger trade haul. I wouldn't even be shocked if eventually we flip him to Milwaukee for more picks and Dame - while Boston/MIL refused to talk.

    Also the extra 75ish million is only 2 additional years of salary. I'm super glad we didn't give Any some 4 year extension instead of this move.

    Overall I'm just glad we finally broke up the AytonGrantAnt big3. Hoping for cap reasons Grant is next.
     
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    Oh I know. I wouldn't be surprised if Scoot got traded.
     
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    Maybe if they trade Grant, having one older guy with a big contract isn't the worst thing ever and I'm already rationalizing shit.

    oof.
     
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    Maybe. There is no long-term thinking now. They're trying to win now. They want to have the best record as possible when the new owner buys them.

    And I'm sure they're thinking hopefully the new owner will keep them on.
     
    Phatguysrule, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:23 PM
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    Ayton deal is expiring. Just pray we don't extend him!
     
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    That has to mean we're trading pick 11, along with another big contract and maybe one of our young guys to get another win now piece.
     
    blazerkor, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:27 PM
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    Fuck it, send Ayton/picks for KAT and let’s see what happens.
     
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    Was there something wrong with my thread? This is the 3rd time I can remember recently of my threads I created being shut down.
     
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    Only if they move him. He is not part of the Portland youth movement.
     
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