Trade Blazers trade Simons for Holiday

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  1. blazerkor

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    I get what you're saying and you are probably right but until we see how things shake out and see what the starting lineup looks like on opening night, we can't know for sure.
     
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    There is just absolutely no way the plan was to just take on an old guys humongous contract and that’s it. The more I think of it this just doesn’t make sense. Jrue has to be going somewhere else.
     
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    My thoughts on the trade:
    • Initially, I was annoyed. Picks should have been coming, not going. A dream trade for the Celtics.
    • Next, I have been considering the possibility that Holiday, even at his age and salary, has more trade value than Ant.
    • We're blowing an extra $5 mil this season on Holiday compared to Ant. Our cap situation is becoming tenuous.
    • Sounds crazy, but Giannis may be more willing to be traded to the Blazers to play with his old friend Holiday. A starting lineup of Holiday, Tou, Deni, Giannis, Clingan seems amazing.... and we'd still have a very good bench.
    • Grant (or Ayton) and Holiday for Paul George and #3 (Kon, possibly) gives both teams what they want, imho.
    • Spending a bit on fanspo has suggested that Holiday would be plausible to over half the teams in the league, even though only 2 teams have been mentioned as having interest.
     
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    Unless we expand the current trade, I don't think we can combine Jrue and another player for a while. He has to be traded by himself.
     
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    Or we have a GM and coach worried about their future with a new owner coming in.
     
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    Kind of shocking we took on Jrue’s contract with the team up for sale. To me that’s a good sign and honestly might be because they have another deal
    Lined up to trade Jrue or another player.
     
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    No offense, but I was a little surprised that so many fans suggested the same.
    It made no sense that the front offense would stop working.
     
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    Yeah, I never bought the notion that we would be inactive due to the impending sale. I thought that Joe would try and make big moves that either show the new ownership what he's made of or other teams who could be his next employer.

    I didn't know if Bert would gum things up but pretty obviously Joe has the green light to try and make this team better... I'm still not sure if that means better for next season or better for the rebuild but it looks like better for next season.
     
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    Giannis on our team might be the worst shooting team of all time.

    I'd love to have him but we'd need many more moves.
     
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    Point to where i said i hated him as a person..

    Now apologize for being wrong. Thank you.
     
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    How much salary did the Pels clear in their deal today? Send Jrue home.
     
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    They didnt. They took more salary on in taking Jordan Poole.
     
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    Gross.
     
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    As someone who's been pretty happy or at least open-minded about what Cronin's been doing the last couple of years, I can't find a way to rationalize this as a good trade if the reports are true that the plan is to keep Holiday. You gave up resources, hurt your cap situation, didn't address your weak offense, and got a guy who missed 20 games last year. This wasn't a team that was going to be put over the top by one more unless it was getting a superstar. Holiday isn't. This is at best a treading-water move that probably hurts us more the longer Holiday is on the team.
     
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    I believe they are saving $7m this year, but they did take on extra salary going forward
     
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    Did you really think I needed reminding that you're the champion of the stinks on ice view that there were realistic trade options for Grant? The season following July 2023 when he gleefully penned his name to the monstrous escalating contract that he'll be on for 3 more seasons he played okay, like at the level of an average NBA starter. Unfortunately for Portland, his contract allots him an All Star's percentage of the cap. Whats the best ability? Of course it's availability and the new 30 year old capped that meh of a season by missing 1/3rd of it. Unfortunately for Portland, not being available is an established norm for him as he's averaged missing over 1/3rd of the season for the past 4 seasons.

    That you couldn't tell this was a massive overpay at the time it went down is not a badge of honor. Jerami's play never justified that sort of contract and sans Dame Portland was clearly no where close to a playoff level roster, so wheres the motivation to tie up finances with an oft injured not that great of a player cresting 30? I've no idea what Shelburne "reported" but the time line speaks for itself and many posters called it as such... is there some reason you didn't link this mystery reporting that you're holding up as justification?

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