It's not ridiculous because Jody doesn't give a shit. They clearly have known roughly when they're going to sell the team. Joe is also operating like a guy who knows he doesn't have a future here. He's probably throwing a hail mary that the team makes a run this year. The Jrue trade makes zero sense otherwise.
I don’t understand why winners like Masai, Bud, Michael Malone, and Nick Nurse get fired. They won you a fucking championship! Show some loyalty.
Well, technically, the players won them the championships. But I agree with you....unless they get too arrogant for their own good.
I think most fanbases would trade five or six years of shit for a ring? If the Clippers hadn't been willing to triple-mortgage the house for PG, Leonard's second choice was to stay in Toronto.
A) While I'm a believer that fans on message boards can know what they're talking about--especially about their team--from time to time, this is just another time it seems I'm zagging against conventional wisdom. b) It's not his questionable moves--of which there are a significant amount, and especially since the championship, but (similarly to Olshey), it's his attitude about his role and his infallibility that give me pause to hire him. He talks about "innovation" and "hiring people smarter than him", but he also says things like (in terms of firing Casey after winning CotY and trading DeRozan after he told him--allegedly--that he wouldn't) basically "I brought them here and gave them the chance." Wasn't a great "read the room" moment. And if that was the only one, that's understandable. But there's a lot of smoke there. Results matter and he did a good job of scorching earth and going all-in on Kawhi and winning the Finals. At the same time, if the Game 7 ball bounces 3x instead of 4, he's got as many chips as the Toronto Huskies do and he makes it out of the 2nd round once in 12 years. Kinda like another team I know... Dude, I get arrogance and thinking you're better and smarter than everyone else. And he's an extremely accomplished guy (his work in NBA Africa is legit). But leadership is also about taking responsibility for bad, praising subordinates for good and for not putting yourself above the org, especially when the last results you had weren't this decade. I haven't gotten that from him. :shrug: YMMV. (For the record, Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr are in this bin as well. Flame away.)
Don't get me wrong, my point in part (a) was that there have been some questionable moves. But that happens to everyone from Jerry West on down. It's the other stuff that made me originally say that I wouldn't hire him. Then again, I have, as yet, not been able to procure an NBA team.
Whether or not fans would trade years of shit for a ring doesn't matter, considering his job as a GM/Etc. IF the question was would you support a tank if it came after a title win, yeah, that would be valid. But that's not what we judge the performance of GMs (etc) by.
