Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

Well it depends on what we are years out from. Making the playin? Yeah we could do that. Making the playoffs? Maybe. Actually contending? Extremely doubtful. Indy has two All Stars. We have zero. This team is all potential right now. You aren’t gonna contend without an all star.

 

What would you prefer:

1. Keep your "best" player but forgo an even greater set of assets to keep the narrative that the franchise is trying to win now (even though they're not).
2. Trade a very good player for even more valuable assets to the franchise, but make it more obvious to some fans you're not really trying to compete.

Also, we just traded/bought out two starters around Deni's age in the last month. Was that in line with the "time to compete" message?

 

Wouldn't the prudent move be to hold onto Deni who is under contract through the season after the upcoming season, see how good to great he is this year, gauge the market for him next off season and the subsequent trade deadline but hopefully just reach a handshake agreement on a max re-sign.

I'm trying to say that we have all of these options that are a year to a year and a half away, why would we fuck with this situation now???

 

But if we play well, 1 or 2 of our players will make the All Star team.

 

Why are we not trying to win now or how do you know we aren’t? How do you know the draft picks 3-5 years from now will be better than Deni? He’s just coming into his prime, how do we know he won’t turn into a star?

As far as the two starters we let go of yes it is in line with winning because they needed to leave for better players to get minutes.

 

No chance we trade Deni unless the wheels fall off by the deadline.

 

Understand and agree.

I didn't mention Holiday or Grant...
When Deni's contract comes due -> Portland may still need to decide to go into the tax (depending on what Shae/Scoot/another player traded for are making).

Deni's next contract is something to monitor-> but not something that should be worried about at this point

 

But if all the other talent flops and you get rid of two that don't, then essentially you are getting rid of everyone and starting over. But this discussion is moot because the new owner is not going to want to see a near-empty arena, unless their goal is to find an excuse to move the team.

 

I doubt the Chinese Billionaire who buys us will care about the tax.

 

Just saying non-All Stars are non-All Stars until they’re not.

 

We don't even know who will own the team by then.

 

A bit off topic so I apologize, but both of your posts left me asking what potential ownership eyes set in on the Blazers if Yang plays well to start the season? I mean, any smart business person must know the massive potential of the Chinese market, right? Would Jodi be prudent to try to delay any potential buyers for a year(if she can) to assess Yang's play and then increase the number? Could the Chinese market potential increase the value by a billion or two? I don't see why not. Possibly even more if Yang puts up solid rookie numbers?

If Jodi sells now and Yang blows up, The buyer will have maybe made the best buy in all sports history. The known and unknown pressure on this kid is unreal!

 

That's a strategy. Part of Deni's value league wide is going to be how many years a team has control of him and his contract. Deni on your roster on a great deal for 3 years > Deni on your roster on a great deal for 2 years.

 

I believe Jerami requested a trade long ago and has been assured by the team that they have already been trying for at least a year.

 

We've made 3 moves this off-season. Let's look at each on and determine if it increased our chances of winning "now" or not:

1. Ant for Holiday trade: This could easily be justified as a win-now move because Ant will almost certainly be a more productive NBA player 4 years from now.
2. Waiving Ayton: Releasing your starting center is not a win-now move. We didn't even use the cap space created by the move to add a player.
3. Drafting Yang Hansen: Taking a young player, not a position of need, who is almost certainly a 3rd string center, over more experienced college prospects (and/or trading the pick) can't be considering a win-now move.

So at best, 1 of our 3 moves signify as win-now.

Your question about the unknown could be said about any move. Teams trade current players for unknown future draft-picks all the time without knowing the players that will be drafted with those picks will actually be better players. This would be about expected value, just like all those trades. Those 5 picks could turn out to be 3 all-stars and Deni could blow out his knee in November and never play again. Or Deni could turn out to be an all-star and none of the picks could pan out.

Again, I like Deni is a player. I love Deni's contract. I question if we're in position to maximize the value of that player/contract in the next 3 years with him on the roster vs trading him.

 

Based off what?

 

I have actually heard that too but not directly from someone who would for sure know.
Might have been a game of telephone but that was the rumor

 

I don't know about the year part but Jerami's exit interview definitely sounded like a dude ready to move on. If he didn't want traded, what would a guy with two years left on his deal need a meeting with Joe and his agent for???

 

when Roy was a rookie it was next to certain he was going to be an all-star. And he was an all-star in his 2nd season. When Dame was a rookie, it was pretty certain he was going to be an all-star. And he made it in his 3rd season

This year Avdija will be in his 6th season; Sharpe will be in his 4th season. Scoot might not even be starting in his 3rd season

Portland doesn't have a probable future all-star on their current roster. Just some possibles if things break right and a couple of players take big steps. Avdija is the most likely and he 'only' averaged 17-7-4 last season

Portland has depth but no elite talent