Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

I'm still missing where we have some level of confirmation that Grant asked for a trade long ago. Can you provide a link or something? My google and twitter searches were unable to come up with anything along those lines.

 

Logical and well-reasoned post.

 

It's weird that you mention Deni and don't connect the fact that he took such a huge leap in his 5th season to the possibility that our guys who are in their 3rd and 4th seasons and came into the league with way less experience than Deni could make that huge of a leap themselves.

People continuing to compare the early career accomplishments and readiness of our two current guards who went from high school to the pros, to two of our favorite former Blazers guards who both were drafted after 4 years of college experience is kind of crazy to me. The year in their lives that both Scoot and Shaedon are about to experience is the same year in Dame and BRoy's lives that they entered the league. We've seen glimpses and even stretches of spectacular play from Scoot and Shaedon so it's not like we don't know if they have it in them.

You are correct that as of the last time we saw them, none of the guys on our roster were elite nba players but I think you saying that we don't have a probable future star on this roster is a bit premature. I don't think that any one of Scoot, Shaedon or Deni have a high likelihood of future nba superstardom but given the collective odds I think it's more likely than not that one of the three is a perrenial all star and any one of them could end up being an MVP candidate.

 

I don't know that Jerami asked out. I just don't know why else a player with two years on his contract would want a meeting with his GM and his agent and to make his desire to have that meeting public. That's as close as someone gets to a public trade request without actually saying it.

You like to ask questions but you don't like answering them.

 

You want me to speculate why a GM and agent had a meeting? I could give a few guesses, but would have zero way to prove any of them are true.

If Rich Paul wanted his client traded, I bet he would be able to get his wish. Previous transactions made by Cronin have been very Klutch friendly.

 

So it didn't sound to you like Jerami wanted to move on when he was asked about his future with the team and his answer was that he would have a meeting with Joe and his agent to figure out what makes the most sense going forward??? Try to be honest and not just obtuse in the pursuit of not giving an inch on your stated position. I've already said that I don't know for sure that Jerami has asked out.

Edit: and as far as Rich Paul being able to get one of his clients traded if they want no matter who it is... there were a half dozen reports so far this summer that we were looking for a place to trade Jerami but the word around the league was that other teams were looking for us to attach a pick to move him and Joe didn't think he should have to do that.

 

Tell Grant to go play well and have his agent find a trade. No need to request it, the Blazers want to trade him but no team is willing to offer anything.

 

I'm betting this is where everyone in this situation (Jerami, Joe and Jerami's agent) are at this point. They're all going to see if Jerami can dig his way out of negative value and if he can he'll be gone.

 

If I'm being forced to speculate, I would say Jerami Grant's ideal situation is not playing for the Blazers. However, I'd guess that to be the case with virtually the entire roster. I think Sharpe would prefer to not be in Portland. I think Clingan would prefer to not be in Portland. I think Scoot would rather be in a different situation.

I'm not sure why there is an issue with me asking another poster why they're "sure" of something? I certainly have no idea why it would bother you any.

 

Exactly. Klutch got him the deal that is making him very difficult to trade. They are going to have to work their magic to get someone to give Portland something in return thath makes sense for them.

 

I didn't say potential star, I said 'probable' star and that's the situation right now. That big leap' you mentioned for Deni, left him at 17-7-4. His big leap actually happened in Washington. He'll have to make another big leap over last season, and he'll turn 25 next season

CJ went from 7 points a game to 21 points a game, won MIP, and went up to 23 points a game the following season, and hovered around 22 points for 6 seasons. And he never really got a sniff of all-star recognition, even though he was a starter on a playoff team each of those seasons. It took Aldridge averaging 23 & 11 to make an all-star game. And he was part of a 54 win team. Aldridge was an all-star in his 6th season; Deni will be in his 6th year next season so sure, it's possible. But possible isn't the same as likely or probable

something else too: this insistence of trying to draw equivalency in ages without accounting for NBA experience is off the mark in my view. Yeah, Sharpe is the same age Roy was as a rookie, but that also means Sharpe has had three off-seasons of NBA work with coaches and trainers; three training camps; three years of NBA coaching; 3 seasons of NBA experience. Dame & Roy only had one training camp when they were 22 and hadn't played a single NBA game

 

We aren’t trading Deni unless we completely collapse in the first half and even then it’s very doubtful. Ant and Ayton were a detriment to the team and their min will go to players that give us a better chance at winning. Not sure why anyone would want to rebuild for 10 years. The pieces are here to win, they just need some experience.

 

If you looked at some sentences or small posts in isolation it probably sounded like I want to trade Deni. That's never been the case. I'm talking about multiple hypotheticals which probably are 99% not going to be the case.

 

I don't even think it needs to be in the next 3 seasons. Contending can be later. But it should be multiple pieces we have that could play a role on a contender besides just Deni/Camara.

 

Grant is content to collect his money cause my guess is he knew good chance Dame was going to ask out and he took the payday prolly without a second thought. This means his agent does not HAVE to do shit and prolly will not do shit unless Grant decides getting a ring is important and pretty sure that is not happening. We are stuck with him for whatever reason .. as much as I want to blame Cronin we do not know how the contract talks went but I want to think Cronin MIGHT have been able to back out after Dame shit hit the fan but again no clue on how things went.

 

I think this is the root difference of where your opinion and others diverge. Those that would want the Blazers to consider trading Deni/Camara/etc wouldn't believe there are pieces here to contend.

 

Can’t get experience sitting behind Grant/Jrue. Sharpe or Scoot will be watching a lot of crunch time from the stands. Maybe both.

 

Cronin and Grant knew what they were getting into and Dame wasn't happy here. Dame wanted #3 pick traded for a vet - not used to draft his 19 year old replacement. Dame agent had a meeting with Cronin days before free agency. Dame always said that's how a trade demand would happen. Cronin later said he wasn't surprised Dame asked out.

Ramona Shelburne reported both Grant and The Blazers agreed to the deal eyes wide open that Dame might not be with the team.

 

Jerami made it clear at the beginning of last season that he had been told his status on the team was very uncertain. I inferred from the way he said it that he had been told they would try to trade him. He didn't seem upset about that so I again inferred that meant he was Ok with or happy to be on going somewhere else. I guess Tince caught me over-stating the case. That's all I am going to say.

 

It would be interesting to hear how many seasons the average freshman/high schooler took to become an all-star as Scoot/Sharpe were.

Seems to me like there were a lot of Jermaine O'Neal / TMac that took awhile but I'm not certain.