Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

Sharpe is good enough to score 23ppg, so were CJ and Ant. Will he do it on efficient averages on a winning team though? That's what matters.

 

Yes he can because of his percentage at the rim.

 

He was old and had no help, it was time to reset. Resetting with a bunch of 21-26 year olds seems odd.

 

We'll see if he can put up those numbers on a winning team this year. I'm skeptical of both happening.

 

I don't see it as resetting. Just like I didn't see buying out 26 year old Ayton or trading Ant as resetting with a bunch of 21-26 year olds.

I see it as maximizing assets when there is no clear contending path. There is no untradable player on this roster to me. I'd think you agree.

 

I have proposed trading Scoot because he was stuck behind Ant, and now Jrue. If management doesn’t have faith in him, trade him. I’m pretty sure Scoot is pissed knowing he is now stuck behind a player CB will never start him over. In three years Scoot is looking for a new deal. He can’t get the big contract because he’s been a career sub on a shit team. Same with either Canada/Deni. One sits behind Grant. Again, CB is not putting $35 mil per season on the bench. If I was either Scoot, Deni or Camara, I’d be on the first train out of Portland. Sharpe two if they bench him and actually start Grant, Deni and Camara. How long do you expect good young players to sit behind vets that do not want to even be in Portland? I’d be furious, despite the fact I’m making millions. I’m at the point to just give a pick to move off of Grant so they can start Deni and Camara. Get rid of Jrue. Do the right thing.

 

So you thought it was bad to trade Gerald Wallace for the pick that became Dame?

 

Jrue is 35.... No need to trade away a 21 year old.

How many teams would Scoot even start on today? I'm not sure if I can think of 5.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and Wallace was 29-30 when we traded him not 24 just entering his prime. Trading Deni now for picks 3 years from now would be stupid. I’m not worried though cause that isn’t gonna happen.

 

OKC has possibly 5 first round picks next year (their, Clippers, Jazz, Houston, and Philly), so they all wouldn't have to be 3 years from now.

I think the Blazers also traded 21 year old Telfair for the #7 pick back in 2006. That pick became, Brandon Roy. So there will be misses with obtaining picks, but there can be franchise changing hits. If you can get 4-5 cracks at it, then you have to consider it when you're only giving up a role player.

 

I don't know about all 10 of those games but I have talked about the 5 games at the end of the season without Simons. Sharpe averaged 29-7-5 (with 3 turnovers). He did averaged 22 FGA/game though, which would have led the NBA. He shot too many three's but that was problem all year.

and yeah, he and Simons were a terrible pairing. They just did not mesh, at all

still, using SGA as a template is a bad idea because SGA is too many tiers above Sharpe. The gap it too large. Maybe somebody like Devin Booker is a little better comp, although still a stretch. In his 3rd season, while 21, Booker averaged 25-5-5

remember now, I never said that Sharpe couldn't improve. I think he'll do much better with Simons gone. I just said it wasn't probable any current Blazers would become stars. Avdija might; Sharpe might. That's possible

 

he's an elite defender. SGA is an elite talent; so is Jokic; and Doncic; and Giannis

Michael Cooper, Theo Ratliff, Derrick Mckey, Eddie Jones, Doug Christie, Tony Allen, Shane Battier, Tayshaun Prince, Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, Rajon Rondo, Serge Ibaka, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, Patrick Beverly, Robert Covington, Victor Oladipo, Eric Bledsoe, Ben Simmons, Matisse Thybulle....all of those guys were elite defenders. That did not make them elite talents

by the way, Jamal Murray has averaged 24 points, 5 rebs, and 6 assists in 79 playoff games compared to 18-4-5 in the regular season. That's a star-worthy impact when it matters

 

What established vets were on those Thunder teams that would have potentially played in front of him?

 

CP3 and and Schroeder were both there his second season.

SGA played more minutes than either.

 

Have we talked about the possibility of working out a sign and trade for Kuminga? The Warriors and him seem to be stuck…and Warriors are in win now mode with Jimmy, Steph, and Green. Grant would fit in well. What assets would we need to attach to Grant to make a deal like that?

Of course, he probably wouldn’t want to come to Portland and come off the bench behind TC and Deni.

 

He would feast with Yang feeding him.

 

Kuminga is BYC so it's difficult to do a trade. Would likely need Brooklyn or a third team.

Kuminga salary would count in full to the Blazers but only 50% to GS so can't think of any way to have them receive Grant.

Then of course who does Kuminga start over here? Do we want to pay him 25-30 million per year?

 

Guys -- unless Grant bounces back this upcoming season we are STUCK with him unless they want to add an asset to move off him OR take back at least a semi bad contract with around same years on it and this is pretty close to a fact at this point. If some of you fans want to be delusional and think Cronin can get this done without throwing an asset in etc then good for you for living in a dream world but I live in the real one maybe you should too.

 

And that's the thing.... at this point I'd rather just keep Grant. He can at least shoot the three.