Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Agreed I expect the Blazers are stuck with him. Maybe at the deadline or next summer something changes.

    At some point as Grants deal is closer to expiring there will be worse players on a similar contract. We then can at least swap them if Grant attitude becomes a problem.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah - the good news is we don't really need the salary space the next 3 seasons. So while his contract sucks it doesn't prevent us from resigning our players.
     
  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't see any trades happening. We will probably convert Sidy's two way to an actual contract to fill the 14th spot and sign Skapintsev to a two way alongside Love and a third player.

    Or

    Alternatively, we could sign Bouknight to the 14th spot (I think he is passed eligibility to be a two way now). Then keep Cissoko and Love as two ways and sign Skapintsev to a two way as well.
     
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    Don't forget we can sign other team's SL players who don't have a contract.
     
  5. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    I remember years ago we'd invite a couple guys to training camp and they battle for the last roster spot. Totally fine to do that.

    We don't need to finalize the October roster in July.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking for the third two way spot, though it's possible we sign someone from summer league to the 14th spot.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Can a cap / cba affish explain how Deni’s Bird rights play into this, please?
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Bird rights aren't a primary consideration... Deni will be a free agent in summer 2028 and Blazers today have no big contracts at that time when they can resign him.

    Deni is unlikely to sign an extension as the Blazers cant give him a big raise due to his low salary. So it's likely Deni waits until he is a free agent in 2028. Blazers will be able to offer him the most money.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    SharpesTriumph left out some details.

    So normally you'd want to try to get Deni to sign an extension BEFORE he becomes a free agent, but the Blazers can't offer him enough money. Extensions are based on a percentage of what the player is already making, so the most we can offer him is far below what he'd normally fetch. We have to let him run out his contract and then when he becomes an unrestricted free agent, we can offer him the most money. Unfortunately that runs the risk of him also being able to leave if he wants. And there's usually so few good players that actually make it to free agency these days, I think a lot of teams will want to try to make a run at him.
     
  10. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I watched SGA for 15 seconds at a game when he was a clipper and knew he'd be a superstar, and then he proved it that game and every game after.

    Sharpe ive watched a handful of games and went "meh". He doesnt have any elite traits like SGA.

    Scoot has shown nothing lol.

    Neither are anywhere close to ever being in the same paragraph as SGA, and odds are never will be.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Sharpe has elite athleticism.

    Not sure how you can say Scoot has shown nothing. He's inconsistent and he isn't the player that we thought he'd be right off the jump, but he has shown flashes.
     
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    Absolutely, I’d be happy to explain how Deni’s Bird rights play into this — though I have to say, I’m frankly shocked this even needs to be clarified. The idea that Deni doesn’t have full, unambiguous rights to his birds — both in terms of ownership and airspace regulation — is a grotesque miscarriage of civic understanding, and frankly, a national embarrassment.

    Let’s start with the basics. Deni Avdija is a man of discipline, grace, and precise perimeter defense — but more importantly, he is a man who owns four exotic cockatoos, a macaw named “Gilad,” and a rescue kestrel called “Tal.” These are not just birds. These are avian companions, bonded to him through a spiritual covenant forged in the quiet mornings of Lake Oswego, where he sips espresso and communes with the sky.

    Now, Bird Rights in this context are about more than who feeds the birds and who scrapes the droppings off the railing. We’re talking air sovereignty. We're talking riparian aerial zoning. You see, the city of Lake Oswego has some of the most obscure bird flight path regulations in the entire Pacific Northwest. According to City Code §11.3.42-A (look it up, don’t be lazy), a homeowner may claim "ambient aerial rights up to 68 feet above the tallest stationary structure on their property." Deni’s got a 34-foot gabled roof and a reinforced pergola, so guess what? That’s 68 feet of pure, unregulated bird glory — vertically exclusive. The kestrel can dive-bomb within that perimeter and no HOA drone has the jurisdiction to stop him.

    But here's where it gets thorny: federal migratory bird overlay maps often conflict with local ordinances. For instance, if Gilad the macaw strays into the “Shared Raptor Corridor” — a real thing, by the way, designated by the Department of Fish and Wildlife — technically, he could be considered a guest bird, and subject to conditional flyover approval. It’s ridiculous, it’s bureaucratic, it’s America.

    Now, some of you might be thinking, “Wait, isn’t this just about Deni being a restricted free agent?” And to that I say — how dare you. You small-minded box-checker. You think everything has to be about contracts and cap holds and mid-level exceptions. Open your third eye. This is about freedom, and the birds know it.

    Let’s contrast this with Deni’s experience in Tel Aviv, where his family's villa is bordered by a citrus grove and, reportedly, a very aggressive community of red-winged starlings. In Israel, bird rights are handled with a combination of Talmudic precedence and modern aviation law. There’s a mutual respect — a covenant, if you will — between human and bird. You don't leash a parakeet there. You invite it. You offer it a home, a mango slice, maybe a small dish of tahini. If it stays, mazel tov. If not, you were never meant to own it. It's poetic.

    Whereas in Oregon, we microchip every damn thing. Tag it, log it, make it a PDF. There’s a fundamental difference in avian philosophy. In Tel Aviv, a kestrel is a messenger. In Oregon, it’s a “Class 2 Protected Asset,” unless it pecks a toddler, in which case it's immediately reclassified as an “Aggressive Invasive Threat.”

    And let’s not forget that birds in the U.S. don't even have the right to self-define. In Tel Aviv, there's a whole sub-discipline of ecological semiotics devoted to bird preference. If a stork wants to identify as a shorebird and attend coastal migration parties, nobody’s going to call the wildlife police. In Oregon? Some park ranger with a clipboard and a limp will write it up for being “out of ecosystem.” Bullshit.

    So yes — Deni’s Bird rights absolutely play into this. They play into this every morning when Gilad perches on the western balcony rail and screams into the coastal fog like a winged prophet of judgment. They play into this when Tal dive-bombs a squirrel and Deni simply nods. And they especially play into this when some Blazers intern suggests that his “non-Bird rights” might limit his financial mobility. Oh, honey. He has Bird Rights. In more ways than you’ll ever understand.

    And another thing — who the hell is stealing all the pinecones from his driveway? They don’t just disappear. That’s not wind. That’s a coordinated effort by either local crows or the HOA president, Gary, who’s always been sketchy. One time he wore cargo sandals. In October. You can’t trust a man like that with avian zoning ordinances.
     
  13. SharpeScooterShooter

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    Rather sign sissoko and Love over buttknight and Skapper
     
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    Had two explanations already, but the biggest one is, we can renegotiate and extend him after next season. Which is our best option for keeping him, beyond him jut wanting to be here. We need to retain cap space, and then we can adjust his salary/renegotiate his salary for that season and then extend him based on the new salary
     
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    So in this scenario we don't give Camara or Sharpe extensions, have Timelord and Thybulle walk then give Deni an extension before resigning Sharp next summer?

    I hadn't heard of this idea before but your right seems like it may be possible.

    Acquiring Jrue over Simons kind of makes that path more difficult.

    I'm not sure ultimately that would be the best path as we might need to hold off on Sharpe/Camara extensions, hurts Deni short term trade value, and would probably mean the Blazers cant use any MLE/etc.

    But yes interesting possibility.
     
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    Jrue Holiday $34,800,000
    Jerami Grant $34,206,898
    Deni Avdija $13,125,000
    Scoot Henderson $13,585,523
    Shaedon Sharpe $25,200,00 (cap-hold)
    Donovan Clingan $7,519,920
    Yang Hansen $4,643,520
    Kris Murray $5,315,004
    Toumani Camara $2,406,205
    2026 1st round pick $6,000,000 (est)
    3 roster charges $4,500,000

    that's about 151M. There might be a little flex there in draft pick and roster charges

    so then, next is the salary cap

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    Blazers would have 14M in space. It might be as high as 18M. Maybe even more if the Blazers dump Murray (although that would add another roster charge)

    then comes the calculations according to the CBA. There are no options in his contract. So my thinking is it would run thru 2027-28, then the extension would kick in. That would seem to mean that whatever calculation was used would be based upon the final season of his current deal: 11.875M. Now, 140% of that would be 16.6M. But if Portland is using cap-space instead I'd imagine that 40% bump would be deleted and the cap-space would have to be added to his 11.875M salary; unless of course his entire new base salary would have to come from cap-space with no credit for his last salary. If that were true then there's no way Deni would sign an extension with a 14-20M base salary. Even adding his last salary to cap-space yields a base salary of around 26-31M. Maybe that would be enough, but that would only be half of his max, maybe even less than half

    and of course that would put Camara into the same situation that people want to avoid with Avdija: being an expiring contract headed to UFA

    now, this is just my guesstimation based upon what little I know of the new CBA. Several posters here know more so maybe they can edit my numbers
     
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  17. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Because he is a troll mod?
     
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    Stren admittedly doesn't watch the games. In the post you're responding to he admits he thinks he can evaluate young players within 15 seconds (I assume he means he can evaluate not only where they're at but where they will end up).

    That should answer any questions you have about how Stren comes to the conclusions he comes to. Also the guy is in a place where he obviously wants to shit on what the team is doing regardless of the fact that he doesn't expose himself enough to what's happening on the court to have an informed opinion. He prides himself in these things.
     
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    Hes shown nothing to show superstar.

    Sharpe is dime a dozen.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I can. I was right about SGA.

    Sharpe is mid and Scoot will never be a superstar. Its really easy to see objectively.

    Its not that hard.
     

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