DAME COMING HOME?

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  1. Tince

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    The Blazers have been operating on multiple time-lines this entire time, regardless of what they say publicly. The Yang pick wasn't a win now move. The Jrue trade wasn't a long term move. I don't think they've had any clear direction other than it appear they're trying to maximize assets the best they can.

    There is no evidence that signing Dame cost us the addition of a better asset in the short or long term, nor that his addition will hurt the growth of the franchise in the short or long term. There is nothing troubling about this singing from my perspective. I fully anticipated the MLE would go unused or given to a short rental.
     
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    I like the Twin Towers example but didn’t Dirk and Luka play like one season together and wasn’t Dirk kinda washed?

    I’m envisioning Scoot taking over and Dame embracing the bench sharpshooter role for a couple seasons after 2027. If Scoot hits.
     
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    Why wouldn't Portland give Deni an extension?

    I always assumed Deni would take the extension, but I don't see how the Dame move impacts any of that.
     
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    Now I see what people are saying. Have some respect. Don't use that word and Dame in the same sentence again. Bite your tongue.
     
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    Agree with your first point. As for your second, there's no evidence that the signing of Dame won't cost us a better asset, either. Having less to work with is having less to work with. That's undeniable. And if that's your perspective, that's perfectly OK. Like I said, I'm not here to rain on anyone's parade tonight. I just think this is a sugar rush.
     
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    What other GM has traded an all-star for an all-star and a haul of picks/youth - then got both the all-stars back? Plus kept the haul?

    I literally can't think of this happening in the history of the NBA.
     
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    Example #1738
     
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    Sure, we could cut everyone and maxmize our cap space if that were the end goal, but we'd be without players (yes, I know the CBA wouldn't allow it).

    In this example, we have Dame and no MLE. We can compare what Portland has done with the MLE the last decade to help determine what likely return would be if we didn't sign Dame. I'm going to guess Dame ranks better than any MLE signing we've had in ages, if not ever.
     
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    I was responding to a direct question to me. There's a lot here to sift through that either touched on things I posted or one could take there and just what I think, so why you feel the need to jump in with ad hominem attacks is kind of odd, but I guess you have your reasons.

    I don't care what the Nets gave Durant or the Lakers gave Kobe. Those are different players and different teams in different times with different goals. The context is different and it matters.

    If you really think that third point, that's perfectly fine. I don't.
     
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    Deni low salary means a team needs cap space to give him a big extension. Now more unlikely the Blazers can clear that space.
     
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    I keep seeing people say Dame is going to make 54M from the Bucks and 14M from the Blazers....68M.

    but Dame apparently has an offset clause. So I think that means he'll make 40M from the Bucks and 14M from the Blazers. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I thought the new CBA closed down the double-dipping loopholes

    not that would just be where his money is coming from; not the cap-impact for Milwaukee
     
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    I So it is safe to assume the Blazers already tested the extension waters with Deni and he said no?

    @wizenheimer my bad!
     
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    Dame / Scoot
    Jrue / Shae / Rupert
    Tou / Tisse
    Deni / Jerami / Kris
    Clingan / Williams / Yang / Reath

    Championship baby!
     
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    Shams reported Dame will make over 70 mil
     
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    I'm not sure. If you're right you'll be ahead of Shams on this one.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    That's why I didn't watch a single Bucks game while he played for them.
     
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    Not what Shams said.

    Aren't buyouts treated differently than someone getting waived?

    It would make sense to me that someone who agreed to getting bought out shouldn't be able to double dip. But a player who gets cut from their deal shouldn't be punished.
     
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    Go listen to their summer league stream. Eric said he wasn't jumping for joy about it but Torey was.

    I'm with Torey on this one. Literally no reason to hate Cronin. For the camp thought Dame was screwed by Cronin, Dame moved on, everyone else should too.
     
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    Blazers didn't have cap space this summer. I wouldn't think they even asked as it would require so many what ifs about the future and might not happen.

    Maybe the Blazers never even considered it as they planned to stay above the cap. Last time Blazers had cap space they won the Evan Turner sweepstakes.
     
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    Good point. Maybe the Bucks don't get any cap relief from Dame signing.
     
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