Event With the 16th pick, Blazers have selected Hansen Yang

Yang has been hyped on many national platforms. But no, we won’t get 20 national TV games.

 

Thats one of the big reasons to build up picks like the Blazers have done with the Magic, Bucks, Celtics picks. Then you can send out that draft equity to bring in a star but still keep all your own future picks.

 

it doesn't say how it was that the Blazers "raked in 150M in commercial value"

from what? Merchandise sales like jerseys and hats in China? There are a lot of fingers in that pie: retailers, manufacturers, the NBA and all 30 teams. I can believe there's been 150M in merchandise sales, but not a lot of that will flow directly to the Portland franchise

 

I'm not going to argue this with you....Taipei Times, China TV and several sports blogs in the states all cite the same numbers...you can go ahead and try to water it down or disprove it. Your choice. The Blazers picked up millions of fans over this guy....I don't think you comprehend how huge that market is. My Taiwanese wife isn't even a Blazer fan and she was blown away by the hype he's generated. Actually it's put a lot of pressure on the kid...in China his face will be on cereal boxes, instant noodles, shoes, cars, sports drinks etc.....the sky is the limit for him...Jeremy Lin made a fortune over there with marketing deals. I also read over 4 million people tuned into watch Yang play in SL compared to 1.2 million tuning in to watch Cooper Flagg

 

I was pointing out that even doing so probably wouldn't be enough to make us a contender.

 

Por que no los dos

 

I'm not disputing that China is a huge market and there may be great profit opportunities for the NBA and Blazers because of Yang. I am asking how it was that China media came up with the 150M number. I can believe they are tracking merchandise sales of Yang related products in China. But 150M spent on retail merchandise in China doesn't all land in Portland

I'm also really curious where you got the number that the franchise value for the Blazers went up 2B in less than a month

 

the 2 billion was mentioned in several videos I think in the one I linked as well. The Rockets made bank with Yao Ming in a similar way but the money was less in his days.Some marketing money and sponsorship money will go to the NBA, Yang himself and some to the Blazers...every article I found said the Blazer got 150 mil of the pie...that was converted from something like 1.65 Remibi Chinese currency...not exact on the RRemibi number but it was well over a billion....the millions of new Blazer fans is reflected in Blazers followers, ticket holders, etc.....there's just no down side to what this generates for the franchise...Also having 3 gold medal Olympians and a top 75 player back boosts the team's value. Signing a Belgian or French player doesn't come with this sort of fan increase. We'll see if the bidding for the team brings in that kind of money.

 

I think the part of your post that I put in bold is where no one believes you. If drafting Yang instantly added something like 50% more value to a franchises net worth, the dude would have gone number one in the draft. There's just no way that adding Yang on its own added 2 billion dollars to the price of a team for sale.

 

how? that's all I'm asking since I don't automatically believe shit I read on the net. Just how was it that the Blazers got an amount equal to next season's salary cap from 3 summer league games and the money has already been entered on the books. Seems like most of any money from China would go to the NBA and be part of the BRI. Then the Blazers would get 1/30th of 50% after the league office took their cut

2B is a specific number and it's just not credible

we don't even know if Yang is going to last in the NBA or be more than a backup C. Or who the buyer of the team is going to be

 

that's what I went after first. 2B is a wild assertion

but the actual financial mechanics of the Blazers already getting 150M from China from 3 summer league games doesn't seem very credible either

 

I didn’t write the articles or make the videos so it’s not about believing me. I’m sharing what I’ve been reading about the topic. As to what the franchise is worth. It’s more valuable today than when Ant was our best player guaranteed. Did anyone think Jeannie Buss would get 10 billion and still own a share of the Lakers? Doubtful. We’ll see what the bidding brings in but I’m not the source of these articles so let’s keep the topic in perspective here. Personally I think it’s a great topic of conversation. Some folks just want to blame the messenger. Also there are a lot of sports analysts who thing Yang should have gone top of the draft.

 

everyone reading anything in print or on the net goes into it with their own system of values and some things resonate and others don't....that's life in the world of info...if you don't believe a stat or article then you're a smart guy...find out with your own filters what you believe resonates as your truth...most sports talk is always framed with speculation..I'd think we'd all go into a chat room aware of that and comment accordingly. I use the traffic light filter...green I believe...yellow...maybe...red ...fuck no. Ask yourself if it's worth fact checking everything or if something just resonates as highly possible. Enough varied sources cited the Yang SL line that I find it highly likely. If it were a Jaynes article...I'd probably doubt the validity. Choices..

 

Yup, seems far fetched.

Yup unlikely, even if we look at gross numbers.

We have seen the 5.2M viewership of the Griz game, let's assume all 4 games together have had a 10M viewership (assume the Griz game was the largest by far).

Now, take 0.3% (*) of these viewers bought Blazers Merch, given what I have seen for official jerseys starting at the $50 and going up, 10M * 0.003 * 50 = $1.5M - the broadcasts in China were free, so I doubt they saw a lot of income from there, to get to the $150M, you will need to either have 100 times the purchase ratio or 100 times the transaction number. That just seems unlikely.

But, what do I know...

(*) - The percentage of viewers that purchased merchandise in the US is estimated at 1.7% for the entire year and many of these are likely long time fans, I used 0.3 as it is about 1/5 of this and even this is a very generous estimate for a week+ of basketball, even if there is an excitement of a new thing.

 

If I understand you correctly the answer is because once we trade all our draft picks for a star we no longer have them to draft quality players.

 

good summary

my points are that even if there was 150M of Yang merchandise sold in a week...and that's possible I guess....the retailers in China are going to take their share; distributors are going to take a share; NBA approved manufacturers are going to get a slice; and of course, what balance remains is part of the BRI calculation with 50% distributed to all 30 teams. The "3 summer league games" that supposedly generated all this money happened within the last 10 days, and the money was generated in China. Unless bags of dollars were loaded into a jet in Beijing and flown directly to the Blazer HQ, it might be months before the Blazers see any of that

 

I know you're just quoting what you read. But what you quoted is not credible

 

I don't want to counter your information as I did not tracked it. I would just be careful with the argument taht a few videos have the same piece of information. Nowadays rewriting other articles is so easily done and so often done that one source can be taken for doznes of article. As a journalist myself, I know in a niche as Switzlerand that if I write something wrong, it will be aggregated 10 times in an hour. That won't make it more true