Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

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  1. crandc

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    I read weather report first thing in the morning. It hasn't happened yet.
    Famine in Gaza is happening.
     
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    Since June 89 children and 65 adults have died of malnutrition in Gaza....Associated Press report one child and 46 adults were killed from bombs while waiting for food aid today. ...enough is enough.
     
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    According to New York Times, 60% of Israelis don't think Gazans ate deserving of empathy. Do they really have to be reminded what happens when a whole ethnicity is dehumanized?
     
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    Canada is joining the UK and France in recognizing an independent Palestinian state. Now hopefully they'll do the same for Taiwan.
     
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    This goes to show the western world learned nothing from the Arab Spring and Winter. (Wikipedia/AI it for info).

    What good will come out by recognizing an independent Palestinian state unilaterly?
    Can you recognize its borders? Do you know who is its ruler?

    What message does this send to Hamas?

    You want a Palestinian state? Sure.
    1. Have them state they recognize Israel as sovreign state side by side.
    2. Have them agree on borders (Gaza, West bank, East Jerusalem - as was agreed in the past by Israel). [Hint hint - they refuse cause they want Tel Aviv].
    3. Have them state they will no longer want any additional land end declare end of all lands dispute.

    This current 'recognition' is done for soley one reason - sooth domestic political pressures (i.e Macron wanting to keep his chair by looking as if he cares about Palestinians because french muslim immigrants and far left woke ideologies allign and). If you care about Palestinians, you do everything in your power to free them from Hamas, and a false Ideology of from the river to the sea.
    (This btw applies on Israel as well - free Isrealis from far right ideology of Israel ruling in Gaza and West bank).
    Both sides must be forced into compromises. Not pushed into false hopes.
     
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    Jimmy carter laid out this two state plan long ago. Israelis did not respect the West Bank borders and continued to develop expanded borders. Also water rights have not been shared fairly in the region. Of course peace comes with a sovereign Israeli state. Palestinians can choose their own leadership. Netanyahu is not helping solve the stalemate at all nor were the radical terrorists that took the Israeli hostages last Nov. the solution has to come with a cease fire and withdrawal of military occupation first and foremost. Yes I want a Palestinian state. A Ukrainian state and a Taiwanese state. I believe in democracy, tolerance and the right to choose
     
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    Im with you. Offer the Palestinians the borders you think Palestine should be.
    Hope they agree with you. But what happens if they dont?

    The first guy in the video is our hope. The second one - not so much.

     
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    Every Israeli prime minister before Netanyahu has understood the importance of bipartisan support for Israel. Netanyahu made it partisan.
    Israel is most isolated it has ever been but he is staying out of prison. Priorities.
     
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    I dont view Deni as a Nazi! Do you?
     
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    "Oh my gosh," Horford said with a laugh. "I didn't know she was talking like this. It's like she has a double personality or something. When she's with me, she's never saying anything like that."
     
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    Deni didn't say anything objectionable. Americans tend to be woefully uninformed about other countries.
     
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    My distrust and general dislike for Trump and Netanyahu does not diminish my love for many, many Americans and Israeli's...I don't hold this against Deni or 2Fluffy at all. We impeached Nixon once upon a time....that's a start. IDF has seriously wiped out Hamas leadership already. .game over..time for the voice of reason to rebuild with peace as the mission. More killing just magnifies the blood feuding
     
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    I'm honestly surprised it's that low, and have hope it can go lower
     
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