<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 14 2006, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O and the game and 50 cent are both straight garbage. The documentary was all 50 and the game couldnt go a verse without mentioned Dre, Eazy E, NWA, or 50. that album is annoying. 50 hasnt come out with an album since forever, if he was a genius then he would already have another one out. Pac was always in the studios unlike 50 who likes making stupid movies and games.</div>50 was in only two songs. And dont bring up the movie thing, Tupac made alot more than 50 did :thumbsup: Game has come out with good shit since he's left G-Unit, ofcourse most of it are disses but shit thats way better than what 50 and G-Unit are puttin out.
Lets calm down here people. None of these post talk about what Vilma was talking about. I don't think he intended to make a Tupac thread where people can argue who is cooler between The Game and 50 Cent.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lets calm down here people. None of these post talk about what Vilma was talking about. I don't think he intended to make a Tupac thread where people can argue who is cooler between The Game and 50 Cent.</div>Who is cooler? No one is talkin about who is cooler, its which is the bitch and which isnt. But yeah 50 shoulda never been brung up in this thread, but somehow he was
1. No rapper alive (or dead for that matter) has even come close to the status of Tupac. Not 50 Cent, not The Game (I don't even know who that is, true rap died with Tupac since Snoop and Puffy went to the pop-rap style).2. Tupac wasn't involved in the beat down of that gang member. That was Suge Knight and his crew. MC Hammer vouched for Tupac and said he was a bystander, not a participant, in the beating.3. Tupac did not want to die. He just expected it. There is a difference.4. Tupac was influential beyond his music. He had people getting aids tests, was (usually) a testament to women's rights, and getting out the black vote. He did more good than he did evil in this world.5. While the last few months of his life were caught up in the East-West battle, this was a relapse. MC Hammer (a friend of his) had him improving his life and moving away from being a thug. Suge Knight pulled him back in.6. Rappers don't keep it real. Why do I say this? Because music changes the lifestyle. All these rappers talkin about the ghetto, when they've bought a house in Malibu (and they all do once they get a pay day) are nothing but a bunch of fakes. You aren't anti-establishment when you have a record deal with a major corporation and star in movies made by a major studio.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Sep 14 2006, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. No rapper alive (or dead for that matter) has even come close to the status of Tupac. Not 50 Cent, not The Game (I don't even know who that is, true rap died with Tupac since Snoop and Puffy went to the pop-rap style).Chronic 20012. Tupac wasn't involved in the beat down of that gang member. That was Suge Knight and his crew. MC Hammer vouched for Tupac and said he was a bystander, not a participant, in the beating.Tupac was a participant, there was video evidence.3. Tupac did not want to die. He just expected it. There is a difference.Hmmm you probably werent talkin to me since I didnt say he wanted to, but he knew.4. Tupac was influential beyond his music. He had people getting aids tests, was (usually) a testament to women's rights, and getting out the black vote. He did more good than he did evil in this world.Thats right.5. While the last few months of his life were caught up in the East-West battle, this was a relapse. MC Hammer (a friend of his) had him improving his life and moving away from being a thug. Suge Knight pulled him back in.It wasnt really a battle, I dont think that many if at all anybody died...6. Rappers don't keep it real. Why do I say this? Because music changes the lifestyle. All these rappers talkin about the ghetto, when they've bought a house in Malibu (and they all do once they get a pay day) are nothing but a bunch of fakes. You aren't anti-establishment when you have a record deal with a major corporation and star in movies made by a major studio.50 Cent is alot faker than Game, which I dont think is fake at all but enough of this shit in a Tupac thread!</div>
[quote name='david81' post='69272' date='Sep 14 2006, 11:05 PM'][quote name='GotSkillz92' post='69255' date='Sep 14 2006, 07:14 PM']O and the game and 50 cent are both straight garbage. The documentary was all 50 and the game couldnt go a verse without mentioned Dre, Eazy E, NWA, or 50. that album is annoying. 50 hasnt come out with an album since forever, if he was a genius then he would already have another one out. Pac was always in the studios unlike 50 who likes making stupid movies and games.[/quote]50 was in only two songs. And dont bring up the movie thing, Tupac made alot more than 50 did :thumbsup: Game has come out with good shit since he's left G-Unit, ofcourse most of it are disses but shit thats way better than what 50 and G-Unit are puttin out.[/quote]Tupac's movies were really good and Pac was a much better actor than 50 will ever be. Poetic Justice, Juice, Gridlock'd are ALOT BETTER movies than get rich or die trying. 50 made the album dont u get it. The Game wasnt even supposed to be in GUnit but Dre put em in there to get some some hype. The documentary was alright but better than most rap now. Like i said there wasnt a verse in which he didnt mention easy e, nwa, or dr. dre. Game has only come out with mixtapes and all about dissing g-unit. [quote name='david81' post='69289' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:47 AM'][quote name='Brooksie5' post='69287' date='Sep 14 2006, 09:18 PM']Lets calm down here people. None of these post talk about what Vilma was talking about. I don't think he intended to make a Tupac thread where people can argue who is cooler between The Game and 50 Cent.[/quote]Who is cooler? No one is talkin about who is cooler, its which is the bitch and which isnt. But yeah 50 shoulda never been brung up in this thread, but somehow he was [/quote]I bet you wanna go to 50's candyshop and good post Vilma but i dont agree with number 1. Jay-Z, Biggie, Nas, Old Mobb deep, were still being bumped after pac died.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why does my post gets erased but Tents doesnt. Freedom of Speech.</div>They do it to me all the time
[quote name='GotSkillz92' post='69306' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:05 PM'][quote name='david81' post='69272' date='Sep 14 2006, 11:05 PM'][quote name='GotSkillz92' post='69255' date='Sep 14 2006, 07:14 PM']O and the game and 50 cent are both straight garbage. The documentary was all 50 and the game couldnt go a verse without mentioned Dre, Eazy E, NWA, or 50. that album is annoying. 50 hasnt come out with an album since forever, if he was a genius then he would already have another one out. Pac was always in the studios unlike 50 who likes making stupid movies and games.[/quote]50 was in only two songs. And dont bring up the movie thing, Tupac made alot more than 50 did :thumbsup: Game has come out with good shit since he's left G-Unit, ofcourse most of it are disses but shit thats way better than what 50 and G-Unit are puttin out.[/quote]Tupac's movies were really good and Pac was a much better actor than 50 will ever be. Poetic Justice, Juice, Gridlock'd are ALOT BETTER movies than get rich or die trying. 50 made the album dont u get it. The Game wasnt even supposed to be in GUnit but Dre put em in there to get some some hype. The documentary was alright but better than most rap now. Like i said there wasnt a verse in which he didnt mention easy e, nwa, or dr. dre. Game has only come out with mixtapes and all about dissing g-unit. [quote name='david81' post='69289' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:47 AM'][quote name='Brooksie5' post='69287' date='Sep 14 2006, 09:18 PM']Lets calm down here people. None of these post talk about what Vilma was talking about. I don't think he intended to make a Tupac thread where people can argue who is cooler between The Game and 50 Cent.[/quote]Who is cooler? No one is talkin about who is cooler, its which is the bitch and which isnt. But yeah 50 shoulda never been brung up in this thread, but somehow he was [/quote]I bet you wanna go to 50's candyshop and good post Vilma but i dont agree with number 1. Jay-Z, Biggie, Nas, Old Mobb deep, were still being bumped after pac died.[/quote]I've never seen GRODT so I wouldnt know, and what the fuck are you talkin about me goin to 50's Candyshop? Ey retard didnt I just say hes fuckin gay in this thread???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're obviously some larry the cable lookin mofo. I never u said any mainstream rappers are better than pac. If he wouldve dropped his gangsta ways as your ignorant ass put it then he wouldnt have sold albums or get his message across. Why are we talking about his death when he's in Cuba?</div>By your logic, what little there is anyways, i can correctly say you are one of those guys who walks around with his hat sideways saying "thug life fo eva g!" yet has no understanding of rap, hip-hop or tupac.He could easily sell albums and not promote his "gangsta ways" I never said he should have changed his songs content... just his life. The whole point is to leave the gang life and get a positive message across to others to do the same... as well as other messages...so... your way, hes dead... died at age 25promoting the thug life and gangster stuff was the biggest mistake of his life, and it ended it. If you don't get that... you are hopeless.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeNt @ Sep 15 2006, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're obviously some larry the cable lookin mofo. I never u said any mainstream rappers are better than pac. If he wouldve dropped his gangsta ways as your ignorant ass put it then he wouldnt have sold albums or get his message across. Why are we talking about his death when he's in Cuba?</div>By your logic, what little there is anyways, i can correctly say you are one of those guys who walks around with his hat sideways saying "thug life fo eva g!" yet has no understanding of rap, hip-hop or tupac.He could easily sell albums and not promote his "gangsta ways" I never said he should have changed his songs content... just his life. The whole point is to leave the gang life and get a positive message across to others to do the same... as well as other messages...so... your way, hes dead... died at age 25promoting the thug life and gangster stuff was the biggest mistake of his life, and it ended it. If you don't get that... you are hopeless.</div>"I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward" - TupacIm glad he died like he did, rather than living like a white-washed bitch...
lol ur an idiot if u think you're more knowledgable than me in hip-hop. You gotta be dreamin. U probably know 2 percent of what i know. Ur from state not from the city where it was born. Good quote David. I forgot what song its from but im guessing Hail Mary.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 15 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol ur an idiot if u think you're more knowledgable than me in hip-hop. You gotta be dreamin. U probably know 2 percent of what i know. Ur from state not from the city where it was born. Good quote David. I forgot what song its from but im guessing Hail Mary.</div>Only God Can Judge Me
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 15 2006, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol ur an idiot if u think you're more knowledgable than me in hip-hop. You gotta be dreamin. U probably know 2 percent of what i know. Ur from state not from the city where it was born. Good quote David. I forgot what song its from but im guessing Hail Mary.</div>Ha ha, your not even smart enough to not challenge what you don't know, and pathetic enough to resort to "i know mo' dan u so there!"ohh and impressive... you've heard hailmary... thats so coolyou don't get it...Tupac pushed the thug life gangster stuff, and got into heated disputes and stuff. Ended up getting himself shot 10 times in his life (more less? i forgot how many it was that killed him) if he has been able to send his message and not promote the thug life he would most likley be alive right now...many rappers can do it, and since hes the best... why couldn't he? I know he could, and no one said he had to be a "whit washed bitch"Promoting a thug life, shooting people, grudges and gangs is never good... a bigger man demotes all of the former... Also the line you quoted david... yes, thats his biggest mistake right there. Keeping the lifesyle much like in JuiceHere is all im saying shorted so you can understand skillz... Tupac was an amazing rapper, and had great messages in many songs. His promotion of the thug life is ultimitly what led to him getting shot, and then shot and killed, and it is extremley possible to not promote the thug life BS and not be a "bitch". In fact It would be more manly and held in higher regard. Ever here the people who say rap is a cancer to black society? Its the thug part of rap they are talking about, not the good messages... tupac did both, and one cost him his life. And earlier one of you said no rapper alive or dead has ever come close to tupac... wel my friend, nas isint dead... and thats damn close.edit: also would like to add, not shooting off at people is not being a coward... its being smart. Life is worth more than pride, if he didn't think so... well, that was his problem... I don't give a shit what he said, Im just pointing out one of the main reasons hes dead.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeNt @ Sep 15 2006, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 15 2006, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol ur an idiot if u think you're more knowledgable than me in hip-hop. You gotta be dreamin. U probably know 2 percent of what i know. Ur from state not from the city where it was born. Good quote David. I forgot what song its from but im guessing Hail Mary.</div>Ha ha, your not even smart enough to not challenge what you don't know, and pathetic enough to resort to "i know mo' dan u so there!"ohh and impressive... you've heard hailmary... thats so coolyou don't get it...Tupac pushed the thug life gangster stuff, and got into heated disputes and stuff. Ended up getting himself shot 10 times in his life (more less? i forgot how many it was that killed him) if he has been able to send his message and not promote the thug life he would most likley be alive right now...many rappers can do it, and since hes the best... why couldn't he? I know he could, and no one said he had to be a "whit washed bitch"Promoting a thug life, shooting people, grudges and gangs is never good... a bigger man demotes all of the former... Also the line you quoted david... yes, thats his biggest mistake right there. Keeping the lifesyle much like in JuiceHere is all im saying shorted so you can understand skillz... Tupac was an amazing rapper, and had great messages in many songs. His promotion of the thug life is ultimitly what led to him getting shot, and then shot and killed, and it is extremley possible to not promote the thug life BS and not be a "bitch". In fact It would be more manly and held in higher regard. Ever here the people who say rap is a cancer to black society? Its the thug part of rap they are talking about, not the good messages... tupac did both, and one cost him his life. And earlier one of you said no rapper alive or dead has ever come close to tupac... wel my friend, nas isint dead... and thats damn close.</div>Tupac was not a gangsta... The motherfucker grew up goin to a fuckin white ass private school. He even said his whole Thug Life phrase did not mean a thug like a gangsta, but a person that grew up in the ghetto and didnt have shit (Which he said white people portrayed them as Thugs). He grew up around dealers and gangstas but he wasnt one of them. Oh and from what I've heard from Nas, he aint close to Pac. By the way do you happen to be caucasian?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Sep 15 2006, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tupac was not a gangsta... The motherfucker grew up goin to a fuckin white ass private school. He even said his whole Thug Life phrase did not mean a thug like a gangsta, but a person that grew up in the ghetto and didnt have shit (Which he said white people portrayed them as Thugs). He grew up around dealers and gangstas but he wasnt one of them. Oh and from what I've heard from Nas, he aint close to Pac. By the way do you happen to be caucasian?</div>didint say he was, but did he not promote through alot of his grudges the same principals.... things like Hit em up... those are why hes dead. the last thing... does it matter? ha ha i knew someone was going to bring in race... which is mind you, pathetic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeNt @ Sep 15 2006, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Sep 15 2006, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tupac was not a gangsta... The motherfucker grew up goin to a fuckin white ass private school. He even said his whole Thug Life phrase did not mean a thug like a gangsta, but a person that grew up in the ghetto and didnt have shit (Which he said white people portrayed them as Thugs). He grew up around dealers and gangstas but he wasnt one of them. Oh and from what I've heard from Nas, he aint close to Pac. By the way do you happen to be caucasian?</div>didint say he was, but did he not promote through alot of his grudges the same principals.... things like Hit em up... those are why hes dead. the last thing... does it matter? ha ha i knew someone was going to bring in race... which is mind you, pathetic.</div>I dont even need you to answer that, I can just tell you are cuz you are like "OMG hes a gangster because he cusses alot and disses!"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Sep 15 2006, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeNt @ Sep 15 2006, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Sep 15 2006, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tupac was not a gangsta... The motherfucker grew up goin to a fuckin white ass private school. He even said his whole Thug Life phrase did not mean a thug like a gangsta, but a person that grew up in the ghetto and didnt have shit (Which he said white people portrayed them as Thugs). He grew up around dealers and gangstas but he wasnt one of them. Oh and from what I've heard from Nas, he aint close to Pac. By the way do you happen to be caucasian?</div>didint say he was, but did he not promote through alot of his grudges the same principals.... things like Hit em up... those are why hes dead. the last thing... does it matter? ha ha i knew someone was going to bring in race... which is mind you, pathetic.</div>I dont even need you to answer that, I can just tell you are cuz you are like "OMG hes a gangster because he cusses alot and disses!"</div>1.) put words in my mouth why dont you2.) again, never said he was... said he promoted the image3.) have yet to hear a reason hes dead from you, if he didint egg it on himself at all4.) come on, even you have to understand something like hit em up isint doing much to protect yourself5.) why bring in race? are you that pathetically retarded? that sterotypical? do you assume since you are black you automatically know more about rap kool aid basketball and fried chicken than me? I love Rap, basketball and kool aid, but i hate chicken. 6.) Tupac Shakur was far from God, maybe you will learn that when you grow up a bit7.) listen to more nas8.) I must repeat, I havnt once said tupac was in a gang, was a gangster, or deserved to die9.)10.) nine and 10 are just to make it go up to 10
[quote name='TeNt' post='69350' date='Sep 15 2006, 04:46 PM'][quote name='david81' post='69348' date='Sep 15 2006, 07:39 PM'][quote name='TeNt' post='69347' date='Sep 15 2006, 04:36 PM'][quote name='david81' post='69345' date='Sep 15 2006, 07:32 PM']Tupac was not a gangsta... The motherfucker grew up goin to a fuckin white ass private school. He even said his whole Thug Life phrase did not mean a thug like a gangsta, but a person that grew up in the ghetto and didnt have shit (Which he said white people portrayed them as Thugs). He grew up around dealers and gangstas but he wasnt one of them. Oh and from what I've heard from Nas, he aint close to Pac. By the way do you happen to be caucasian?[/quote]didint say he was, but did he not promote through alot of his grudges the same principals.... things like Hit em up... those are why hes dead. the last thing... does it matter? ha ha i knew someone was going to bring in race... which is mind you, pathetic.[/quote]I dont even need you to answer that, I can just tell you are cuz you are like "OMG hes a gangster because he cusses alot and disses!"[/quote]1.) put words in my mouth why dont you2.) again, never said he was... said he promoted the image3.) have yet to hear a reason hes dead from you, if he didint egg it on himself at all4.) come on, even you have to understand something like hit em up isint doing much to protect yourself5.) why bring in race? are you that pathetically retarded? that sterotypical? do you assume since you are black you automatically know more about rap kool aid and fired chicken than me? I love Rap, and kool aid, but i hate chicken. 6.) Tupac Shakur was far from God, maybe you will learn that when you grow up a bit7.) listen to more nas8.) I must repeat, I havnt once said tupac was in a gang, was a gangster, or deserved to die9.)10.) nine and 10 are just to make it go up to 10[/quote]He died cuz he helped jumped this guy that Suge and his homies did. The guy later caught up to him at a stoplight. Thats why.Hit em up is a diss song, he talked shit so what? It wasnt even Biggie or Puffy that killed him.First I am not black, actually brown. But I only asked if you were white is cuz about 90% of white people do not know shit about gang life, it had nothin to do with rap but how you were sayin his songs were sayin "Oh be a thug thats the best thing you can be in the world". Didnt say he was but damn I never heard anyone that has put out such songs that make you think than his do. Maybe, I like him and all but wouldnt say he was close to Pac. But you said his songs promoted the message that bein a gansta is the way to be.
