OT Oregon Ducks 2025

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by wizenheimer, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Certainly seems like the Beavers want their home game. Not willing to only play at Oregon.
    It is an interesting situation.
    If they cut Oregon altogether and only play the new PAC 12 games and become the big fish in a smaller pool so to speak, they look better nationally and may even rank high enough to get into the playoffs.
     
  2. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    24,760
    Likes Received:
    37,670
    Trophy Points:
    113
    they'd have to be the big fish in the entire G6 landscape, not just the Pac-12

    meaning they'd not only have to be better than Boise St, WSU, San Diego St. etc, they'd have to be better than Navy, Memphis, Tulane, Temple, South Florida, UConn, Bowling Green, UNLV, Wyoming. In other words they'd have to be obviously better than 61 other G6 teams because it's nearly certain there will only be one G6 team in the playoffs. And if the SEC and Big-10 have their way, G6 may lose their automatic slot
     
  3. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Boise State was just in the top 4.
     
  4. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    24,760
    Likes Received:
    37,670
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yes...the lone G6 team because of a guaranteed slot. This season is the last that G6 is guaranteed a slot. They were also 12-1 at CFP selection with their only loss being a 3 point loss, on the road, against the #1 rated team. That kind of resume will be really hard to match in the future
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are changing the format because they are also adding more teams to the playoffs and going to straight seeding. However all conference champions will still get a bid. Just not getting that first round bye. There will be 12 teams and the winner of the PAC-12 will get a spot. Unfortunately that probably won’t be the Beavers until they make some changes.
     
  6. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    24,760
    Likes Received:
    37,670
    Trophy Points:
    113
    none of that is true at this point

    the strong 'preference' is a 16 team playoff:

    upload_2025-9-19_8-59-31.png

    so there's a distinct possibility that the 12 team format will remain in place next season

    and no, the Pac-12 does not automatically get a slot. Right now it's a 5+7 format with the 5 highest ranked conference champions getting automatic bids and then 7 at large invites. Last season, Boise State was the highest ranked conference champion from the Group-of-Five (now the Group of 6). But it could have been Memphis or Tulane or South Florida

    the reason(s) the format change hasn't happened yet is because of an impasse between the Big-10 and SEC:

    upload_2025-9-19_9-12-54.png upload_2025-9-19_9-14-16.png

    basically, it's the two super-conferences jockeying for dominance. The SEC actually blinked first, and did so in a big way, by finally agreeing to match the other 3 power conferences by going to a 9 game conference schedule. That was a huge concession

    from what I read, it seemed like the Big-12 and ACC were slightly inclined to support the SEC's 5+11 format....BUT....the Big-10 had/has a gigantic Ace in the hole because ESPN-FOX-CBS etc preferred the Big-10 model and were willing to chip in more money if that model was adopted. And as we know, more money = 'sure, let's do that'

     
    kjironman1 likes this.
  7. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are going to straight seeding. Don't kid yourself. They are also going to 16 teams eventually. Too much money involved. Again. Don't kid yourself. Will this all be worked out by Dec 1st? Doesn't matter. If it doesn't get worked out this year they will wait another year or two so they have a better look at what the other conferences shake out to be. To me that makes sense. Wait a year or two and see what they have then.
     
  8. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    24,760
    Likes Received:
    37,670
    Trophy Points:
    113
    16 team format?....sure, it will eventually happen if for no other reason that it would add more playoff games and more games = more money

    straight seeding? If you're talking about no byes, sure; if you're talking about the CFP committee controlling everything, don't count on it. IIRC, the only conference that was in favor of that was the SEC. The reason is that kind of straight seeding puts too much power in the CFP committee and grants too much leverage to the flawed polls

    the reason the SEC wants it is because they know there is a pro-SEC bias in the polls and that bias leverages the CFP committee, a lot, no matter how much they claim it doesn't

    the Big-10's desired format takes a lot of influence away from the polls and power from the committee. The Big-12 and the ACC like that, and again, so do the media partners
     
  9. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    71,664
    Likes Received:
    60,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    Is this Penn States STARTER?
    IMG_3376.jpeg

    IMG_3378.jpeg
     
  10. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,278
    Likes Received:
    18,394
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Straight seeding refers to the ranking at the end of the season. Top 4 are top four. No more giving a bye to a team just because they were #1 in a conference like last year. It was a joke.
     
    BBert and Hoopguru like this.
  12. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,661
    Likes Received:
    145,915
    Trophy Points:
    115
  13. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    22,527
    Likes Received:
    23,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not only was giving the conference winners a bye a joke but honestly it threw the playoff draws out of whack. Certain teams had a cakewalk road to the Championship.
     

Share This Page