Oregon State Beavers 2025

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    And there is more to it than just TV viewership #'s, although that is a big factor.
    And that graph/data is cool. Good find. But I'm almost positive the majority of the WSU/OSU viewership #'s represented in it are from their opponents market/viewers... not from WSU/OSU fans.
    Agreed. The dead horse is beaten.
     
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    Looks like Northern Illinois is joining the PAC-12, but just for wrestling. They have a strong wrestling program so I’m happy about it.
     
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    https://pac-12.com/news/2025/9/30/p...addition-of-northern-illinois-university.aspx

    The Pac-12 Conference and Northern Illinois University (NIU) today jointly announced that the Huskies will join as an affiliate member in the sport of wrestling beginning with the 2026-27 season, coinciding with the new Pac-12’s launch year. Northern Illinois will join Oregon State and fellow affiliate members Cal Poly, Cal State Bakersfield and Little Rock as members of Pac-12 Wrestling.

    With today’s announcement, the Pac-12 currently has five future members in the sport of wrestling for the 2026-27 season with Oregon State and four affiliate members in Cal Poly, Cal State Bakersfield, Little Rock and Northern Illinois. As an NCAA sport with an automatic qualifier, the Pac-12 will need to add at least one more wrestling program to meet minimum requirements of six members for the sport in order to retain NCAA automatic qualification for its annual league champion.

    Prior to completing membership with the five future members in place, the new Pac-12 will continue to see wrestling be a prominent sport for the league.
     
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    Ok I'm a CPA but I still didn't follow how much exactly Blueprint is paid from all those various tweets and articles.

    It would be great if we could get a report of lets says for a certain time periods, lets say 2024 or prior academic year or such;
    How much NIL $ was paid to the athletes
    How much NIL $ went to Blueprint
     
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    The lawyers fees seem totally reasonable and expected. Massive $ in play for one time changes with former Pac members, the MWC deal, and schools going from MWC>PAC. I actually wouldn't have been surprised if they were significantly higher.

    Now in 2026, 2027 and future years there should be a massive reduction in those expenses.
     
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    So if this is an example of what was actually paid to Blueprint yes I totally agree its a fireable offense to all of the involved OSU management;

    "So, for example, if Blueprint generated $3 million of net direct revenue in a year, it would receive a total payout—including management fee, fundraising bonus and contract admin fee—of $1,542,500, slightly more than half the pie."
    https://www.sportico.com/leagues/co...consulting-rev-share-oregon-state-1234872423/

    Certainly can see having an outside party manage the NIL deal - but that should be a fee of 5-10% tops. Having more NIL funds going to blueprint than to the athletes is insane.
     
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    Then on the players side the NIL agents get 20% of the deal. Compared to pro players where its 3%.

    So lets say OSU fans all pitch in and raises $1,000,000 NIL thinking we're helping support the Beavers Football team.

    -514k goes to Blueprint
    - 97k goes to players agent (20% commission)
    So the players get 389k.

    This is Nuts!!!

     
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    I heard on the radio this morning that people close to the situation are saying that the #'s in the Sportico report are very much incorrect. But they could be trying to save their own ass. Only time will tell. Hopefully we get some legit answers/facts soon.
     
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    It seems to me that OSU being a publicly funded university should have to release details on a lot of those figures. I guess we will see.

    I can certainly see someone reading that legal language and totally butchering how the fees are calculated, the wording is very confusing. Thats why I want to see what total NIL $ were actually raised, total fees to Blueprint, NIL $ to athletes.
     
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    Sportico is legit. They brought in Michael McCann from SI. I've read McCann's stuff for years, no one better covering the legal side of sports, especially college.


    Michael McCann
    Legal Analyst and Senior Sports Legal Reporter

    Michael McCann is a tenured Professor of Law at the University of New Hampshire Franklin Pierce School of Law, where he is Founding Director of the Sports and Entertainment Law Institute and Associate Dean for Academic Administration and Intellectual Life. McCann is also a Visiting Professor of Law at Harvard Law School. He is an attorney with more than 20 years of practice. McCann was on the legal team for Maurice Clarett in Clarett v. NFL and has represented clients in antitrust, employment and IP matters. McCann was a Legal Analyst and Staff Writer for Sports Illustrated from 2007 to 2020, authoring more than 1,000 stories. He is the Editor of the "Oxford University Press Handbook of American Sports Law" and, with Ed O'Bannon, co-author of "Court Justice: The Inside Story of My Battle Against the NCAA." McCann has also authored more than 30 book chapters and law review articles, including placements in the Yale Law Journal and Boston College Law Review, and has testified before the U.S. Senate as a legal expert. In 2025, McCann won the Association of American Law Schools’ Law and Sports Section Award, a prestigious award honoring an individual who has made a substantial and significant contribution to scholarship, teaching and service in the field of sports law. He holds degrees from Harvard Law School, the University of Virginia School of Law and Georgetown University.

    https://www.sportico.com/author/michael-mccann/
     
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    I'm probably wrong but I think you're off in your calculations. The contract appears to set a baseline of 750K; I'm assuming the Beavs would get all of that minus any fees. Then when the revenue raised crosses the 750K threshold, Blueprint gets 75% of the money raised between 750K and 1.15M (274M-->Blueprint; 91M--OSU). Above 1.15M, Blueprint gets 50% of funds raised

    so for 1M generated, a split of 187.5K would go to Blueprint (75% of 250K). BUT, there is an annual management fee of 284K + 12,500 in a contract administration fee. Blueprint would get 472K and OSU would get 528K....if I'm reading that right

    so, for instance, say Blueprint raises 8M in NIL. They would start with 284K in management fees + 274K in their 75% cut + 3,425,000 for their 50% cut + 100,000 on a contract administration fee

    284,000 + 274,000 + 3,425,000 + 100,000 = 4,083,000. Basically, a tick over half

    not I'm not buying for a second the notion that agents get 20%. But if the braintrust at OSU was willing to sign that terrible of an NIL revenue sharing deal, maybe they would bat an eye at an agent asking for 20%
     
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    The agent would be paid from the players portion. That is a contract between the player and their agent. Would have nothing directly to do with OSU or Blueprint contract.

    NFL, NBA and other pro sports agents normally get 3%. NIL deals its quoted as normally being 20%.

    Its cash that OSU boosters are raising and never goes to the player - which is why I included it.
     
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    That's true for any team though ... whOregon/PennSt is going to give Oregon better viewership numbers than whOregon/Rutgers. And it still doesn't make up for the apples/apples viewing of an Arizona, ASU, Utah who were all playing in the same conference and yet had worse viewership numbers. It's why the tv viewership argument never made any sense and yet it seems like that's what the B12 hid behind when all this was going down. Tell me it's about logistics of getting to Pullman/Corvallis and even though I think that's a bogus argument, it's at least a little logical.
     
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    You were arguing their 'market' size wasn't big enough being the Pullman and Corvallis markets, and refuse to accept that isn't the case but at least we can agree on your last sentence.
     
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    Conservative areas support OSU far more than in liberal areas. Far more.

    *By ratio*
     
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    If so, its because of a rep that no longer exists and they just haven't caught up with what corvallis is really like.

    I know plenty of people that are hunters and have Beavs gear because its Orange, but couldnt care less about anything to do with the Beavs.
     
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    I certainly don't know the specific reasons each of them do it, simply that they do.

    I get the feeling it does have more to do with the ag and engineering at OSU being more relevant to those living in less populated areas.
     
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    You do know that You can Hunt/Fish/drive a truck/ work construction/Own guns and not be a conservative right?
     

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