Extensions for Toumani and Shaedon?

Haven’t heard anything about either. We are about two weeks away from the deadline.

What happened to the rumors that we had a 4 year 89 mil extension on the table for Toumani?

 

well, it may be that extension for Camara has been 'on the table' since July 1st and he's unwilling to sign. He's a pretty definite 3&D guy; that has good value generically. He averaged 11 & 6 last season and it's easy to project him elevating his game to 14-15 points and 7 rebounds while shooting over 38% on three's. But none of that is guaranteed and meanwhile, he's 25 years old, is a weak ball-handler and doesn't really create offense for himself or teammates. So, 22M/year would seem appropriate. But, if he goes into restricted free agency next summer, he may get 5M more a year; maybe more the way salaries are climbing. So, by not accepting the deal on the table, he could make himself many millions more over a 4 or 5 year contract

as for Sharpe, the big question is what he's worth obviously. If he continues along the slow-improvement-in-some-areas-regression-in-others, he's not worth much; Camara is worth more, easily. If he makes a major leap across the board this season...yikes! Next season, the cap is going to be around 170M. So a max 4 year deal could be in the 47-48M year range. A 5 year deal could be close to 50M/year...gulp

the reason why we haven't heard anything could also be now that a new owner has been identified, the Blazers may not be committing to any significant new contracts till next summer and the new owner is in place

 

I think the idea is that we have lose cap flexibility after we sign them, so it makes sense to wait.

 

Sharpe's cap-hold will be 25.2M so unless they are planning on signing him for 35M/year, they won't be increasing cap-space by much




by my quick and probably inaccurate math, counting the guaranteed salaries plus the cap-holds of Sharpe and Camara (10 players) plus 2 roster charges, Portland will have somewhere around 159-160M in counting payroll. Assuming a salary cap of 168-170M, that would leave Portland around 9-11M in cap-space

that's not enough flexibility to accomplish much. Is that even enough cap-space to sign somebody as good as Thybulle? If it isn't then you might as well add Thybulle's 21M cap-hold and that jumps the Blazers well above the salary cap

 

If we can get Shaedon for 4/100 we should absolutely do that. That could be such a good deal for us if he improves like we think he will. Wait another year and he breaks out, he might be 30-50 mil per year.

 

I think that would be a steal.

 

sauce?

 

look at the fischer post above.

 

5x120 sounds about right

 

Shaedon Sharpe to land deal worth over $100 million?

 

Anybody else concerned about giving Sharpe a huge long term deal? Im not worried about Scoot, Deni, or Camara working hard once paid. Not sure why but I am a bit concerned that Sharpe may relax and put in less effort.

Probably inevitable he gets a big deal eventually. So outside of trading him I don't know what other choice we have.

Maybe could have him prove his worth during the season instead of extending him now.

Also he has had a number of injuries.

 

some perspective:

Anfernee Simons got 25M/year. He got that contract when the salary cap was 123.6M. That worked out to an annual salary of 20.2% of the initial cap. And his base salary was 18% of the cap

Next season, when Sharpe gets his new deal, the cap is projected to be around 168M. If Sharpe gets an annual salary equivalent to what Simons got at 20% of the initial cap, it would be 34M/year. And his base salary (1st year) would be 30.2M

comparing 4th year Simons to 3rd year Sharpe ends up rather close. Simons has an edge in efficiency and offense, but Simons was the worst on the team in terms of defense. Obviously, it worked out that the Simons contract was an overpay, so that could be an object lesson for the Blazers with Sharpe. But I think people expecting that Sharpe would sign a 4-year/90M deal are probably underrating the rapid increase in the salary cap and the impact on contract expectations

on the other hand, going by the Giddey/Kuminga/Cam Thomas stalemates this summer, maybe the new apron restrictions have finally caused front offices to play more hardball

 

If they give him 50 million a year, then yes, I would be concerned. But 25 million per year....no.
It's all crazy money, but that is the going amount, and I would not screw with him like the Warriors did with
Kuminga.

 

I try not to worry about contracts anymore. Portland is going to pay a premium, and they're going to easily wiggle out of the artificial dire straits cast upon them by the CBA that was agreed upon by all the owners.

 

When was the last time the Blazers signed a player to a good contract?

Grant, Nurk, Simons are the recent big ones I remember.

Allen Crabbe, Meyers Leonard, Evan Turner back when Cronin was asst GM a decade ago.

 

Two predictions I read that sounded right to me both had us giving him 125 mil for 5 years. Mike Richman predicts 115 mil for 5 years.

 

I might be wrong but I'm thinking the max extension he can get this summer is 4 years. That a max length contract of 5 years, but the first year is still the upcoming one

 

If I were either of them I'd wait to see how the season goes before re-signing to Portland. New owner, culture stuff, seriousness of the management, etc.