Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Wow. That's awesome.

     
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    You know what is awesome? That the Israeli hostages are expected to be freed in the next 72 hours, which is an awesome step towards the end of the war. Thats awesome. That is meaningful.
     
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    There are 48 hostages. Netanyahu has killed around 20k kids in their name.

    416.7 kids per hostage.

    When I get taken hostage and the price to get me back is the life of a single kid you can just tell them to kill me, thank you very much.

    Every world leader (in fact, everyone) should continue treating that piece of shit exactly like these delegates did.
     
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    It is okay to blame him, I wont fight you on it.
    But is just as okay to blame Hamas and the Palestinian people for their hatred education and zealotness against Israel.

    Choose whichever perspective you like..

    I am sorry.. truly sorry to say this - but you not know what you speak of when you look at things via numbers of casuallties..

    I wasnt planning on it - but, if you want to discuss this conflict - watch this video and think hard before clicking the added links.
    It is mentally damaging. But it is reality. Not propaganda - not journalism. GO PRO reality of the matter.
    Once and if ( and I will not be accountable for any health or mentall issues which may arise following viewing) you watch it - come back to me and talk about numbers of casuallties.

     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I don't blame kids. Netanyahu specifically ordered the torture and murder of kids.

    Blaming the people of Palestine would be like suggesting the US should torture and murder the people of Israel for Netanyahu's actions.

    That's just not logical.
     
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    Can you please provide source of that claim?
    The there was an order to torture and murder kids?
     
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    Lol. You don't think kids are going to be impacted when you deny food to entire populations? When you bomb population centers?

    Over a fucking terrorist action.

    Maybe we should go bomb Utah for getting Charlie Kirk killed? Shit, they support gun rights.

    Maybe cut them off to all food and water for a few years... That's reasonable...
     
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    So thats a no then. You dont have a source.
    You have what your media is feeding you.
    Please review my previous post and consider seriously if watching the provided video or not. Let me know of you are willing to watch it and we can discuss further then..
    I have source material..you have Al Jazeera propagnada narratives.
     
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    With regads to 'famine' in Gaza - I welcome you to scan X media and find videos of Gaza people cheering and happy as the war perhaps ending - you will find plenty.
    What you will not see in these videos - is emaciated population. Just normal looking blokes being happy.
    Show me one social media post that shows people under famine and emaciated and celebrating the current deal in Gaza.
     
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    So 20,000 kids didn't die from the Israeli attacks? That's your claim? Is that what you're going with?

    And your reasoning here is that Gazans are happy they are no longer going to be bombed?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gaza-israel-hamas-war-children-deaths-orphans-trauma/
     
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    JfizzleBlazer Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Wait. So you call one source propaganda then knowingly endorse scanning X, where propaganda and bots run wild.

    :blink:
     
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    It's not propaganda if it supports your opinion.
     
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    Run whatever format that allows you to view direct videos from Gaza people.. no X then..

    Here, I googled and came up with this youtube video I have no idea of which background - but it shows the people of gaza.. seems like women and men with normal nutritional intake.

    Remember this post in two days - and see if/when the hostages are released if they had reasonable calorie intake...
     
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    You said Netanyahu ordered to specifically kill and torture kids.
    Saying 20k kids died in the war is not the same.
    If you ask me - I would argue: A. The Data is not verified and not reliable. (Reported by Hamas, so it is the same as asking you to rely on IDF info).
    B. There are in fact Hamas terrosits that are teens. So they account as both kids and terrosits and IMO deemed as acceptable war targets.
    As I said - numbers are irrelevant IMO.
    If you cared about numbers you should have cared more about famine in Yemen and Sudan or Syria civil war casualties.
    The reason you care so much about this conflict is beacuse it was easy to feed the west of the oppression/oppressed narrative and evoke emotions..
     
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    I said he made the specific orders. Those orders resulted in many kids dying. Far more than 48 kids. Far more than hundreds of kids.

    When did I say I didn't care about famine in Yemin or Sudan (or anywhere)? Or the civil war casualties in Syria?

    I actually care deeply about these things and that's why I support the policies that I do.

    The Syrian civil war was caused by drought destroying the livelihoods of its many farmers. Climate change has had a huge negative impact on most famines we see today.

    That's why you see me hating on Trump and many Republicans and Democrats who have supported and enabled these policies which have prevented us from making more progress.
     
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    "Netanyahu specifically ordered the torture and murder of kids" (which is quoting you).

    Is different from saying "I said he made the specific orders. Those orders resulted in many kids dying. Far more than 48 kids. Far more than hundreds of kids."

    In the original post you portray him as a sadistic leader calling to kill and torture kids. In the next you say his orders resulted in kids dying.
    I hope you understand the difference and why it is important - because chanting Bibi is a children killer and tuturer specificaly ordering to kill children is different from saying his war descisions led to far too many casuallties IMO.

    Btw - I edited my original previous post and added a youtube video regarding the 7th of Oct attack..
    I wonder if you had a chance to think of wathching it or not.. let me know.. (as noted - I do not recommend watching it, but I do believe it is essential for debating this issue while holding the reality and severity of it).
     
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    Hitler's war decisions led to the death of some Jewish people, I guess.

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    Trump has ordered 200 troops to Gaza....he's ordered way more into several Blue state cities..2 or 3 times as many into Portland alone.
     
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    Hitler commited genocide of the Jews. Jew Population decreased by 6 millions.
    Israel is at war with entities that seek it's destruction.
    At the end of the war - The Palestinian population will be greater in numbers than it was on Oct. 7th.
    As I have said before - and people keep forgetting:
    Hamas decisions led to Palestinians people dying.
    There is no excuse for Oct 7th.
    There is no excuse for holding the hostages while crying 'Genocide'.
    Hamas is accountable for their people. Hamas could have stopped the war on Oct 10th.
    I am against numbers debating..
    Hitler was a genocidal Nazi..
    Bibi is a prime minister of a democratic country who holds western values..(albeit complicated)
    If you cant tell the difference there isn't much left for me to do..

    But if you want to play number games - sure.. go ahead and compare intentional genocide of 6 million jews vs war torn area with reported 60k casuallties..
    In WWII europe had approx.. 9.5 Million Jews population, meaning around 63% of the Jews were killed (6 million) in 6 years time - Genocide indeed.
    In Gaza there are approx. 2.2 million people, meaning around 3% were killed (60k) in 2 years time. Yes - this is truly evident that Israel is intending to ethnic cleanse the Palestinians and is commiting the slowest genocide in documented history.
     
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