I don't like this at all. I'd have rather have had David Ortiz win, because the MVP should be a player that can carry his team on his back. Like David Ortiz did for a while, like Jeter did for most of the year, etc. Justin Morneau is good, but he's not "Carry a team on my back" good.The Votes
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 21 2006, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like this at all. I'd have rather have had David Ortiz win, because the MVP should be a player that can carry his team on his back. Like David Ortiz did for a while, like Jeter did for most of the year, etc. Justin Morneau is good, but he's not "Carry a team on my back" good.</div>I have to agree that Morneau probably shouldn't have won the MVP. I liked somebody from the Twins, but his name was Johan Santana who just had an ungodly year.Whatever, congrats to Morneau.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Nov 21 2006, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 21 2006, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like this at all. I'd have rather have had David Ortiz win, because the MVP should be a player that can carry his team on his back. Like David Ortiz did for a while, like Jeter did for most of the year, etc. Justin Morneau is good, but he's not "Carry a team on my back" good.</div>I have to agree that Morneau probably shouldn't have won the MVP. I liked somebody from the Twins, but his name was Johan Santana who just had an ungodly year.Whatever, congrats to Morneau.</div>If it were someone from the Twins, yes, Santana. Why? Because when the chips were down Santana carried the team on his back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>NEW YORK (AP) -- Minnesota's Justin Morneau edged the New York Yankees' Derek Jeter to win the American League's Most Valuable Player Award on Tuesday.Morneau received 15 first-place votes, eight seconds, three thirds and two fourths for 320 points in voting by a panel of the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Jeter got 12 firsts, 14 seconds, one fourth and one sixth for 306 points.Boston's David Ortiz was third with 193 points, followed by Oakland's Frank Thomas (174), Chicago's Jermaine Dye (156), Minnesota's Joe Mauer (116) and Twins pitcher Johan Santana (114), who received the other first-place vote.Morneau hit .321 with 34 homers and 130 RBIs, helping the Twins win the AL Central for the fourth time in five years. Jeter batted .344 with 14 homers and 97 RBIs, finishing three points behind Mauer, who became the first catcher to win an AL batting title.</div>
You guys can cry all you want, but without Morneau.. the Twins wouldn't have won 70 games. But go ahead.. go whine at MLB for picking someone who deserved it.
They really screwed Jeter. Morneau wasnt even the mvp of his own team. Im a Mets fan and Im even saying its a robbery.
Yeah, what the hell are you guys talking about? Sure, Santana helps the hell out of it for the Twins, and without Santana, you are right, they don't make it to the playoffs. But you know what, if they had Santana and not Morneau, this team would've finished in third place in that division. This guy carried the team on his back the WHOLE year, none of this gay August crap, don't even give me that, you dont hit 30hrs in August...Without Derek Jeter, Yankees still get to playoffs, no problem, heck, without half that lineup the Yankees still get to the playoffs. Stop crying about it you "want everything" Yankee fans. You hate Alex Rodriguez because he hit .290, send him over here, I will gladly take his 30+hrs and 120+rbis per year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Nov 21 2006, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They really screwed Jeter. Morneau wasnt even the mvp of his own team. Im a Mets fan and Im even saying its a robbery.</div>As much as many people have a "New York bias" there are FAR more who have an Anti-New York bias. Truth is the A-Rod win last year was questionable to a LOT of writers, and this is their form of payback.
Sorry Yanks fans. But Michal Cuddyer beat out Jeter in every stat but batting average. Congrats Justin.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaroonNGold @ Nov 23 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Yanks fans. But Michal Cuddyer beat out Jeter in every stat but batting average. Congrats Justin.</div>So... carrying your team to success counts for nothing now?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 24 2006, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaroonNGold @ Nov 23 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Yanks fans. But Michal Cuddyer beat out Jeter in every stat but batting average. Congrats Justin.</div>So... carrying your team to success counts for nothing now?</div>Not to you. Morneau carried the Twins... Jeter helped the Yankees greatly, but they would've made the playoffs without him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Nov 24 2006, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 24 2006, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaroonNGold @ Nov 23 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Yanks fans. But Michal Cuddyer beat out Jeter in every stat but batting average. Congrats Justin.</div>So... carrying your team to success counts for nothing now?</div>Not to you. Morneau carried the Twins... Jeter helped the Yankees greatly, but they would've made the playoffs without him.</div>No the Yankees wouldn't have.And Johan Santana carried the Twins.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Nov 24 2006, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Liriano boosted the twins and then Santana carried them the rest of the way.</div>I don't remember it exactly numbers wise, but I remember Dan Patrick talking about how the Twins were essentially a .500 team when Santana wasn't pitching (After the All Star break they were something like 3 games over .500 without Santana). So pitching aside, that offense regardless of stats didn't carry the team, Santana did.
Don't care what you all say, you don't watch the Twins every day they're on (and I don't the Yankees, so maybe I don't know about Jeter), but Morneau carried the team. Johan was a big help.. every 5 games.. but Morneau carried us every day.
Yes. I don't watch the Yanks but Morneau defiantly did spark us. Look at last season. We had Morneau, we had Mauer, we had Cuddy and yet we sucked. Also Justin Morneau sucked. This year Morneau didn't and look at the Twins.
Jon Vilma, how can you type on your computer that if the Yankees didn't have Derek Jeter, let's say you replace him with a below average shortstop, the Yankees wouldnt make the playoffs? They had freakin Robinson Cano batting last. A lack of a couple of "amazing" defensive plays and one bad offensive player doesnt exclude your team from the playoffs. You guys easily would have made it.Put in a below average 1B on the Twins for Morneau. No chance in hell they make the playoffs in that division.You can argue all you want Santana carried the Twins. Every 5 games, yeah, the Twins were the best team in baseball. But what happened in the other days? Justin Morneau, that's what happened
