Man, what a chokejob by the Giants!Up 21-0 in the 4th Quarter and give up 24 unanswered points to Vince Young and Pacman Jones. A huge loss by the Giants, one that will probably bite them in the ass come playoff time.
I love Pac Man Jones so much. That interception in crunch time came through. And Mathias Kiwanuka helped us out a bunch by not sacking Vince on that play . We are 4-7 right now but I still we have a great team even though the record doesnt show it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Txgen @ Nov 26 2006, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love Pac Man Jones so much. That interception in crunch time came through. And Mathias Kiwanuka helped us out a bunch by not sacking Vince on that play . We are 4-7 right now but I still we have a great team even though the record doesnt show it.</div>The Giants cost themselves that game between Plaxico Burress giving up on the first ball that PacMan intercepted and Kiwanuka not following through and sacking Vince Young on that key play. They deserve to lose with the lack of effort they show at times.....but that was a shocking loss.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Nov 27 2006, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eli Manning just has a name on the back of his jersey, but nothing of that "name" inside.</div>The team more fell apart around him then anything. Burress was benched because of his dumbass play that led to Manning's First INT. The Giants only had one First Down in the 4th Quarter due to his recievers not doing shit and the running game sucking, and that first down was because Eli did it himself and ran for it. Kiwanuka made a horrible non-sack, Frank Walker and Kareem McKenzie both had costly penalties, and of course, the Giants defense started sucking. It was a team loss more then anything else. I was watching it and they just collapsed. I wouldn't be suprised if they just quit on Tom Coughlin now and suck the rest of the way on route to getting him fired.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Nov 27 2006, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The team more fell apart around him then anything. Burress was benched because of his dumbass play that led to Manning's First INT. The Giants only had one First Down in the 4th Quarter due to his recievers not doing shit and the running game sucking, and that first down was because Eli did it himself and ran for it. Kiwanuka made a horrible non-sack, Frank Walker and Kareem McKenzie both had costly penalties, and of course, the Giants defense started sucking. It was a team loss more then anything else. I was watching it and they just collapsed. I wouldn't be suprised if they just quit on Tom Coughlin now and suck the rest of the way on route to getting him fired.</div>How about some credit to the Titans for winning the game? Making great plays, playing almost perfect football, capitalizing on mistakes, the defense shutting down the Giants O, forcing turnovers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ Nov 27 2006, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about some credit to the Titans for winning the game? Making great plays, playing almost perfect football, capitalizing on mistakes, the defense shutting down the Giants O, forcing turnovers.</div>The Titans played well in the 4th Quarter, I'll give them credit there, but they never would have come all the way back without the Giants implodeing. Sorry, but it's the truth.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Nov 27 2006, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Titans played well in the 4th Quarter, I'll give them credit there, but they never would have come all the way back without the Giants implodeing. Sorry, but it's the truth.</div>The Titans made a HUGE 4th down stop. Pacman made two outstandings plays AND had a huge punt return. Vince was nearly perfect the second half.Three bad plays by the Giants: late hit by Walker, laziness by Plaxico Burress, and Kiwi letting go of Vince.Walker's hit was stupid. He was standing out of bounds. Hit a player that was out of bounds. And hit him in the head. He killed a bird with 3 stones. We capitalize 3 plays later with a TD.Burress gave up on the pass. The MOST that would've changed had he NOT given up was the 20-whatever yards of field position. He couldn't have broken up the pass and kept Pacman from making an amazing play.From what I understand, Kiwi let go of Vince on the 4th & 10 play because he thought Vince had thrown the ball. It's understandable because Vince pump-faked right as Kiwi hit him. But they still had plenty of opportunities to get him down before he picked up the first. Everyone was standing around with their thumbs up their ass because they thought the play was over. Vince made an incredible play picking up that first down. His awareness and wit kept us in it.The Giants made some mistakes, but the Titans freakin dominated the 4th quarter.The Giants did enough to lose it, but the Titans did more to win it.
First of all, had Burress not given up on the pass it was very possible he could have either Tipped it, or even Caught it himself. He mis-judged the ball and thought that it was Overthrown when in reality it wasn't. He was step-for-step with PacMan Jones until he gave up on the ball so don't give me that he couldn't have prevented it from being Intercepted as he could have.Secondly, Walker and Kiwanuka's big mistakes were both on 4th down and long that would not have been converted had they played it properly, so those are HUGE mistakes as they kept drives alive that would have otherwise been closed. Also some less publicized, but equally costly mistakes.What about the penalty on Kareem McKenzie that cost the Giants from wasteing 40 seconds off the clock with 3 minutes or so remaining that would have made the difference between Overtime and Losing.Or Eli Manning forceing the ball to Tyree with a minute left to play. He had no chance of hitting his reciever when he threw that ball, and while it was a very athletic interception by PacMan Jones, the reality is that ball should have never been thrown. Yes, the Titans played well......they played EXTREMELY well. I'm not trying to say that they didn't play well at all, Vince Young and PacMan Jones were both very impressive in this win and made some huge plays to get their team back into the game.The Titans deserved to win this game and they did dominate the 4th Quarter. All im saying is that without the Giants help the comeback wouldn't have been possible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, the Titans played well......they played EXTREMELY well. I'm not trying to say that they didn't play well at all, Vince Young and PacMan Jones were both very impressive in this win and made some huge plays to get their team back into the game.The Titans deserved to win this game and they did dominate the 4th Quarter. All im saying is that without the Giants help the comeback wouldn't have been possible.</div>That's all I wanted to see
I think Kiwanuka's non-sack was justified. You don't want to look like a fucking idiot if you pummeldrive Vince Young, you'll get a 15 yard penalty without a doubt since quarterback hits are practically illegal these days. Tom Coughlin would have thrown a shit fit about how he was playing stupid.But since he let go, he looks like an idiot for not following through. Tom Coughlin threw a shit fit anyway.He was in a catch-22 on how to look stupidest.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Nov 27 2006, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Kiwanuka's non-sack was justified. You don't want to look like a fucking idiot if you pummeldrive Vince Young, you'll get a 15 yard penalty without a doubt since quarterback hits are practically illegal these days. Tom Coughlin would have thrown a shit fit about how he was playing stupid.But since he let go, he looks like an idiot for not following through. Tom Coughlin threw a shit fit anyway.He was in a catch-22 on how to look stupidest.</div>Keep your head up long enough to realize it's a pump fake and then knock the shit out of him. It's really not that hard.
