Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>1. DETROIT LIONSBRADY QUINN QB | Notre Dame Nobody thought the Lions were going to be a great team this year but they have too much talent to be this bad. There is plenty of blame to go around but one big problem has been Jon Kitna because even though he is having a solid season in terms of his passing numbers he's also been one of the worst in the league when it comes to turnovers. A prototypical quarterback with everything you look for in terms of both physical tools and intangibles, Quinn has also been tutored by quarterback guru Charlie Weis and you absolutely cannot underestimate the importance of that pedigree. Kitna is the short-term solution but they need a guy like Quinn long-term.2. ARIZONA CARDINALSJOE THOMAS OT | Wisconsin When it comes to mock drafts there aren't many no-brainers that are more obvious than this. To say that the Cardinals are desperate for offensive line help would be an understatement and since they are already set at quarterback, running back and wide receiver the other top rated players in this draft (Brady Quinn, Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson) are essentially eliminated from contention, leaving Thomas as the obvious choice. Arizona probably isn't that far away from playoff contention and the offensive line is what's really holding them back so if they are able to add a stud up front to solidify that group they could very easily take that next step in a hurry.3. OAKLAND RAIDERSCALVIN JOHNSON WR | Georgia Tech It wasn't long ago that wide receiver was the deepest position on the Oakland roster but Doug Gabriel is gone, Jerry Porter clearly has one foot out the door and I wouldn't put any money on Randy Moss being around much longer either. The o-line is a major concern for the Raiders and they could probably use a top quarterback as well but with Brady Quinn and Joe Thomas off the board they opt for the best player available in Johnson. Calvin Johnson just has a phenomenal package of skills, with a blend of size, speed, hands and body control that you rarely, if ever, see and he is the definition of an elite prospect. He is simply the best wideout prospect in years. 4. HOUSTON TEXANSADRIAN PETERSON RB | Oklahoma Even though running back probably isn't their biggest need it is at least a question mark due to the durability and health questions surrounding Domanick Davis so the Texans opt for the best player still on the board in Peterson. A native of Palestine, Texas, Adrian Peterson has a tremendous blend of size, speed and power and he may end up being the best prospect we've seen at the position in quite a while. The only question with Peterson, who's been compared to Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, is durability but his injuries have been relatively minor for the most part and he is just such a rare talent that most teams will be than willing to overlook that factor.5. WASHINGTON REDSKINSGAINES ADAMS DE | Clemson Last offseason the Washington overspent to sign Andre Carter as a free agent but thus far he's been a pretty big disappointment so a defensive end who can rush the passer is still a major need for the Skins. When the season started Quentin Moses was widely considered to be the top senior defensive end prospect in the country but while he has struggled Gaines Adams has been outstanding and as a result it looks like he could very well be the first player off the board at his position next April. An excellent athlete who could even play outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, Adams is a premier pass rusher due to his quickness and pure speed off the edge6. CLEVELAND BROWNSALAN BRANCH DT | Michigan The rebuilding process in Cleveland is now coming along slowly but surely however even though they have really upgraded the talent level in recent years there is still a lot of work to be done. One position that could stand to be upgraded is defensive end, where Orpheus Roye and Alvin McKinley are both basically just guys, so to land Alan Branch would be a coup. Branch plays defensive tackle for the Wolverines but he does have experience at end and that is where he would fit best in the Browns 3-4 scheme. Only a junior, Branch has emerged as one of the best pro prospects in the college game this year and could go very high should he decide to go pro early.7. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERSJAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U. Chris Simms was supposed to be the Bucs quarterback for years to come but now he might not even be on the roster in 2007 as he's due to become an unrestricted free agent after missing most of the season with an injury. Jon Gruden likes Bruce Gradkowski and he's fared about as well as a rookie 6th round pick can be expected to but he's still probably more of a backup at the pro level. Even though Brian Brohm gets more attention JaMarcus Russell is actually a better pro prospect and while the Daunte Culpepper comparisons are pretty accurate what really stands out is his arm strength, which might be as good as anyone's in the game. And that's at any level.8. TENNESSEE TITANSLEON HALL CB | Michigan A couple of years ago Tennessee invested a Top 10 pick on Pacman Jones and despite his numerous off-the-field troubles his play on the field has lived up to their expectations. The problem, however, is that outside of Jones the Titans really don't have another starting-caliber cornerback on the roster so that is an area they will look to address. Leon Hall is the next great Wolverine defensive back and not only is he a productive coverman but he isn't afraid to come up and help support the run either. The addition of Hall would give the Titans a great young pair of corners while moving Reynaldo Hill and Courtland Finnegan to the backup roles they're suited for.9. MINNESOTA VIKINGSJAKE LONG OT | Michigan For years the Vikings have been known for their great offense and terrible defense but this year those roles have been reversed. Most will tell you that their biggest problem is a lack of playmakers at the wide receiver position so you'd think that Ted Ginn would be an ideal fit here but apparently head coach Brad Childress doesn't believe in taking wideouts in the first round. With that being the case he instead opts to follow the Eagles blueprint of addressing the lines in round one and brings in an offensive tackle to replace Marcus Johnson. Jake Long is the next in a long line of great Michigan o-lineman and he will be an ideal fit as a right tackle in the pros.10. ST. LOUIS RAMSQUENTIN MOSES DE | Georgia Despite their best efforts the Rams defense still has a ways to go and while you could easily make the case for a linebacker or defensive back here as well Quentin Moses is the best player available so he's the pick. At the start of the season some regarded Moses as the top senior prospect in the country, at any position, but his play has really dropped off this year and many cite a case of "senioritis" and playing not to get hurt as the main reasons. Moses is still an excellent pass rusher though so despite his lackluster final campaign he might not fall much further than this and for St. Louis he'd provide an upgrade and be a perfect compliment to Leonard Little.11. GREEN BAY PACKERSTED GINN, JR. WR | Ohio St. Despite getting a gloomy pre-season forecast from most the Packers have actually relatively pretty well this year despite an abundance of youth on both sides of the ball. Granted they are not as good as their record would lead you to believe but at least they aren't as far away from contention as most thought. One thing they could use however is more playmakers on offense and it never hurts to give Brett Favre additional weapons to throw the ball to. Donald Driver's underrated and rookie Greg Jennings has been a surprise but Ginn and his world-class speed would really bring a whole new dimension to that offense and could help out as a return man as well.12. MIAMI DOLPHINSQUINN PITCOCK DT | Ohio St. On the face defensive tackle might not appear to be the Dolphins biggest need but when you consider that Keith Traylor, Vonnie Holliday, and Jeff Zgonina will all be unrestricted free agents next offseason that may change. Coming into his senior season Quinn Pitcock was considered a good prospect but the knock on him was that he wasn't much of a pass rusher but that perception changed this year after he notched 8 sacks for the Buckeyes. Nick Saban is also in the market for an outside linebacker who can rush the passer and that could be a consideration as well but seeing as how there isn't a player available here who fits that mold they go d-line.13. PITTSBURGH STEELERSJUSTIN BLALOCK OG | Texas This is a team that is in a weird position because, despite their record, they really don't have many glaring needs to address. With that said no team is perfect and one area that Pittsburgh could stand to upgrade is the offensive line, specifically right guard where the duo of Kendall Simmons and Chris Kemoeatu just have not been getting it done on a consistent basis. This might be a little high for a guy like Justin Blalock, a big road grader who can play guard ot tackle, but this franchise has never been afraid to go against the grain and when you depend on the offensive line as much as they do it really only makes sense to invest some resources there.14. BUFFALO BILLSSAM BAKER OT | Southern Cal. The Bills are extremely excited about the potential of Jason Peters, who they recently signed to a long-term contract extension, but Mike Gandy was moved inside to guard and they are now starting rookie seventh round pick Terrence Metcalf on the other side. Arguably the best player on what have been some very talented Trojan offensive lines, Baker is the premier left tackle prospect in the junior class and he would more than likely be a very high pick should he opt to enter the draft early. Depending on how J.P. Losman develops down the stretch quarterback could be an option too but Baker would help complete Buffalo's offensive line makeover.15. ATLANTA FALCONSREGGIE NELSON S | Florida Last offseason the Falcons completely made over the safety position and brought in Lawyer Milloy and Chris Crocker to be their new starters. Even though that duo has certainly been an improvement over what they had there is still basically little or no depth and Milloy is nearing the end of his career so it might be time to bring in a youngster. Reggie Nelson has seemingly come out of nowhere this year and he has quickly become the premier playmaker among college defensive backs and seen his draft stock soar as a result. A junior who is leaning towards coming out, some feel that Nelson could also play corner in the NFL and that versatility will help his cause.16. NEW YORK JETSMARSHAWN LYNCH RB | California Regardless of whether Curtis Martin retires or not his career as a starting running back in the NFL is over and the Jets desperately need an upgrade over the likes of Kevan Barlow, Derrick Blalock, Cedric Houston and Leon Washington. Lynch has been very productive throughout his career and is a dynamic big play threat who can take it the distance at any time. In the first year under a new regime the Jets devoted the vast majority of their Draft Day attention to lunch pail guys (i.e. two offensive linemen in round one) but the time is right to bring in some skill position talent and Lynch would be a good pick at this point. Never rule out defense though. 17. SAN FRANCISCO 49'ERSDARRELLE REVIS CB | Pittsburgh The situation the Niners find themselves in at cornerback can only be described as brutal and outside of Shawntae Spencer there is very little to get excited about at the position. There is a chance that San Francisco might invest a chunk of their free agent dollars in a top coverman but as of now that hasn't happened so corner is by far their greatest need. Darrelle Revis is a guy who doesn't get a lot of attention on the national scene but he has ideal measurables and in the minds of most scouts he has clearly established himself as the top junior prospect at his position and would more than likely be the second cornerback drafted should he opt to come out early.18. PHILADELPHIA EAGLESPAUL POSLUSZNY OLB | Penn St. In the past Philly fans haven't been afraid to let everyone know when they don't agree with a draft pick and they even booed the selection of Donovan McNabb but odds are they would be more than okay with the idea of bringing in a local hero like "Puz". Many have called Paul Posluszny one of the best, if not the best, linebacker that the Nittany Lions have ever produced and that is really saying something when you consider the school has been nicknamed "Linebacker U". You could make the case that the Eagles need not one but two new starting linebackers so to land the top guy on the board in the middle of round one would be just a perfect situation.19. CINCINNATI BENGALSDEMARCUS TYLER DT | North Carolina St. Despite bringing in veteran Sam Adams the Bengals are still among the worst rush defenses in the league and are giving up over 120 yards per game on the ground, which just isn't acceptable for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. The big problem for Cincy is that while they have a bunch of solid players on the defensive line they don't have any real impact players or difference makers so the time may be right to invest a first rounder in the position. There isn't a player in the country has helped himself more than "Tank" Tyler this season and he might now be a first round pick next April, just like Mario Williams, Manny Lawson and John McCargo were in 2006.20. DALLAS COWBOYSLEVI BROWN OT | Penn St. The offensive line is without question the biggest problem area in Big D and the fact that Marc Colombo is starting for them speaks volumes about the state of that group. Levi Brown is a mountain of a man at 6-5 and 325 pounds and while he could potentially play left tackle in the pros like he does for the Nittany Lions he'd be of greater service replacing Colombo on the right side for the Cowboys. This may be just a slight reach but when you are as desperate for offensive line help as Dallas is you tend to do whatever is necessary to bring in help even if it means taking a guy like Brown ten spots early then so be it, although Justin Blalock would work as well. 21. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (f/SEA)LARON LANDRY S | L.S.U. It seems like every year the secondary is pinpointed as a major need for the Pats yet for the most part they still haven't addressed it but the day is coming where they will have to add some help in the deep patrol. After a slew of recent injuries Rodney Harrison doesn't have much left in the tank and while James Sanders was slated to take over a starting safety job the team has seemed to sour on his future prospects so as of right now they don't have Harrison's replacement on the roster. LaRon Landry is a playmaker in every sense of the word and he also played for Bill Belichick Protg Nick Saban in college so this pick would certainly seem to add up.22. CAROLINA PANTHERSBUSTER DAVIS ILB | Florida St. There were already questions about the Panthers linebacking corps but with the long-term future and playing career of Dan Morgan in serious doubt due to repeated concussions the position has now become a major concern. Throughout his career Buster Davis had been overshadowed by Ernie Sims and A.J. Nicholson but he has really come into his own as a senior and emerged as a top prospect. Davis doesn't have the ideal height that you look for at only about 5-10 but Carolina had a lot of success with another short guy by the name of Sam Mills and with his ability to play either outside or inside he'd be an ideal fit here, regardless of Morgan's situation.23. NEW ORLEANS SAINTSPATRICK WILLIS ILB | Ole Miss It's a little known fact that last year the Saints were prepared to take A.J. Hawk with the #2 overall pick in the draft before Reggie Bush unexpectedly fell into their laps. That should tell you how badly they want to address the position. At times their linebackers have played okay this year but the bottom line is that they are just a bunch of journeymen and the team needs to add a front line talent. Patrick Willis is very athletic and a big hitter who has been as productive of a linebacker as you will find the past couple years. Even though this might be a slight reach "P-Willie" would be a good fit here and could potentially help out at either inside or outside.24. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARSBRIAN BROHM QB | Louisville Seeing Brohm this low will probably come as a shock to many but the reason for his fall is two-fold. First of all he really isn't as good of a prospect as some have made him out to be and the consensus in scouting circles is that JaMarcus Russell, not Brohm, would be the second quarterback drafted this year. The second reason is just lack of teams between picks #7 and #24 with a glaring need at quarterback. With Byron Leftwich falling out of favor and David Garrard not seizing the starting job it looks like the Jaguars will be in the market for a new quarterback in the near future so to acquire Brohm, who could be a Top 5 pick in 2008, here would be ideal.25. KANSAS CITY CHIEFSDWAYNE JARRETT WR | Southern Cal. For years now the Chiefs have boasted a high-powered passing attack despite not having a true #1 wide receiver but it might be time to change that. After taking care of their defense the past couple of offseasons Kansas City may be in the market for a wideout since Samie Parker hasn't stepped up as they hoped and there isn't much depth to speak of. A prolific wideout since his true freshman season, Dwayne Jarrett has outstanding size and a real knack for getting in the end zone so despite his lack of blazing timed speed and the comparisons to Mike Williams he could very easily go higher than this and become the elite pro player that Williams was supposed to be. 26. NEW YORK GIANTSMARCUS MCCAULEY CB | Fresno St. Despite their best efforts to upgrade the secondary last offseason their pass defense still ranks in the bottom half of the league and most of the veterans they brought in don't have much left in the tank. Needless to say an infusion of talent wouldn't hurt so if there is a top cornerback available they might just pounce on him. Marcus McCauley has struggled mightily at times as a senior but he's a better prospect than Richard Marshall (who's playing very well for the Carolina Panthers) was last year and his rare blend of size (6-1, 205) and speed (4.3) should help him find a home in Round 1 despite his subpar final season. In fact, this may be a steal.27. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTSJEFF SAMARDZIJA WR | Notre Dame The Pats received a first rounder from Seattle for Deion Branch so why not use one to bring in another wide receiver? "The Shark" is a great athlete with ideal size, good hands and tremendous body control and you just can't underestimate the connection that he has with the Patriots, having been coaching by Bill Belichick's former offensive coordinator Charlie Weis for the past two years. Samardzija also plays minor league baseball for the Chicago Cubs which could affect his draft stock but he is a legitimate first round talent if he opts for a career on the gridiron rather than one on the diamond. At this point however that still remains a very big "if".28. DENVER BRONCOSRAY MCDONALD DE | Florida Last year Denver was widely panned for their decision to patch the defensive line with Cleveland Brown castoffs like Gerard Warren and Courtney Brown but you have to give credit where it is due because in the end those moves worked out pretty well. However the Broncos still lack a dynamic presence up front, especially at end where Brown continues to battle the injury bug and guys like Ekuban, Lang and Engelberger all leave something to be desired as starters at the professional level and Elvis Dumervil is more of a situational guy. Ray McDonald is a bit of a 'tweener who could see action at either end or tackle and he's seen his stock soar this year.29. SAN DIEGO CHARGERSSIDNEY RICE WR | USC The phrase that probably best describes the San Diego Chargers group of wide receivers is solid but unspectacular. Keenan McCardell is very reliable but beyond him the team has very little to get excited about and really lacks a true #1 option. Although he is just a sophomore Sidney Rice redshirted in 2004 and has been out of high school for three years which means technically he could enter this draft if he so chooses. Physically Rice has just about everything that you look for in a top receiver including outstanding size, hands and ball skills and while there are certainly some question marks the potential rewards probably outweigh all the risks at this point.30. BALTIMORE RAVENSANTHONY SPENCER DE | Purdue Top to bottom the Ravens might have the deepest, most talented roster in the league and as a result trying to pinpoint a glaring need for them is difficult. An area that could become a concern however is linebacker, especially when you consider that their underrated defensive playmaker Adalius Thomas is set to become an unrestricted agent and might not be back next year. In college Anthony Spencer plays defensive end but he's undersized and would be an ideal candidate to make the move to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme due to his athleticism. Spencer's stock is really on the rise thanks to a strong senior campaign so this is a good fit.31. CHICAGO BEARSZACH MILLER TE | Arizona St. Even though they already have one of the best defenses in the entire league the Bears used almost their entire 2006 Draft to bolster that side of the ball, ignoring a porous offense. Maybe that will turn out to be the right decision and maybe it won't but one way or another Chicago is going to have to add some impact players in the passing game and one position that is going to have to be upgraded is tight end, where Desmond Clark is solid but average. After bursting onto the scene as a true freshman in 2004 Zach Miller has been one of the most productive tight ends in the college game and would give the Bears a top pass catching threat at the position.32. INDIANAPOLIS COLTSMICHAEL GRIFFIN S | Texas Linebacker may be the Colts biggest need with Gilbert Gardner struggling and Cato June perhaps getting ready to follow Mike Peterson, Marcus Washington and David Thornton as outside 'backers who have fled the team via free agency but historically Indy hasn't invested early round picks on the position and there's no reason to think they will start now. Instead they choose the next great Longhorn defensive back in Michael Griffin, who will provide insurance in case Mike Doss bolts as a free agent and provide depth behind the oft-injured Bob Sanders. Griffin is a tackling machine, a lights out hitter and a top special teamer who'd be a steal here.</div>
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft [quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='76598' date='Nov 28 2006, 04:11 PM'] [/quote]Who's that guy who's been saying that JaMarcus > Brohm all along? :whistling:[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='76598' date='Nov 28 2006, 04:11 PM'] [/quote]I doubt he drops that far to us, but if he did I would be ALMOST as happy as I was when the Jets did what I told them to do and drafted D'Brickashaw Ferguson. :drool:
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>7. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERSJAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U. Chris Simms was supposed to be the Bucs quarterback for years to come but now he might not even be on the roster in 2007 as he's due to become an unrestricted free agent after missing most of the season with an injury. Jon Gruden likes Bruce Gradkowski and he's fared about as well as a rookie 6th round pick can be expected to but he's still probably more of a backup at the pro level. Even though Brian Brohm gets more attention JaMarcus Russell is actually a better pro prospect and while the Daunte Culpepper comparisons are pretty accurate what really stands out is his arm strength, which might be as good as anyone's in the game. And that's at any level.24. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARSBRIAN BROHM QB | Louisville Seeing Brohm this low will probably come as a shock to many but the reason for his fall is two-fold. First of all he really isn't as good of a prospect as some have made him out to be and the consensus in scouting circles is that JaMarcus Russell, not Brohm, would be the second quarterback drafted this year. The second reason is just lack of teams between picks #7 and #24 with a glaring need at quarterback. With Byron Leftwich falling out of favor and David Garrard not seizing the starting job it looks like the Jaguars will be in the market for a new quarterback in the near future so to acquire Brohm, who could be a Top 5 pick in 2008, here would be ideal.</div></div>Who's that guy who's been saying that JaMarcus > Brohm all along? :whistling:</div>Who's that guy who's been wrong all along? Russell might get drafted higher because people fall in love with his 'tools' but he won't be a better Pro QB. :thumbsup:
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft [quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='76605' date='Nov 28 2006, 04:20 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='76600' date='Nov 28 2006, 03:13 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='76598' date='Nov 28 2006, 04:11 PM'] [/quote]Who's that guy who's been saying that JaMarcus > Brohm all along? :whistling:[/quote]Who's that guy who's been wrong all along? Russell might get drafted higher because people fall in love with his 'tools' but he won't be a better Pro QB. :thumbsup:[/quote]I know my QB's.Prior to the 2003 NFL draft, I said that Carson Palmer would be the only 1 I'd want to be my team's QB. So far Rex Grossman, Kyle Boller, and Byron Leftwich all look like wasted picks (sorry Bears and Jags fans).Prior to the 2004 NFL draft, I stated the most successful NFL QB's would be: 1. Roethlisberger, 2. Rivers, 3. Eli Manning. So far it looks like I'm right.Prior to the 2005 NFL draft I said both Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers would bust. So far it looks like I'm right.Prior to the 2006 NFL draft I said Leinart would be a solid starter, but nothing Amazing, and Vince Young would bust out. It looks like I'm right on the money on Leinart, but I may have been wrong on Vince. Too early to tell.So for the most part, in the past, I've been money on QB's. And I'm telling you, JaMarcus will be a stud in the NFL. Big arm, good mobility, good pocket presence, and most importantly: tons of poise. I'm even tempted to put him ahead of Quinn because I think Quinn needs the right system to succeed whereas JaMarcus could succeed under any system.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So for the most part, in the past, I've been money on QB's. And I'm telling you, JaMarcus will be a stud in the NFL. Big arm, good mobility, good pocket presence, and most importantly: tons of poise. I'm even tempted to put him ahead of Quinn because I think Quinn needs the right system to succeed whereas JaMarcus could succeed under any system.</div>The one thing I can't get over about Russell is how much he tends to suck against any talented defense. Auburn and Florida both made him look silly, and even Tennessee forced him to throw 3 picks this year alone. Against Ranked Teams, he has put up a QB Rating of 100 in College only 2 of 13 tries. (2004 Bowl Game against Iowa in which he only threw 15 Passes, and Last week at Arkansas).If he can't get the job done against an good NCAA defense, what chance does he have in the Pros?
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft I'm pretty sure the Titans are slated to pick 10th now.Anywho...with the emergence of Cortland Finnegan (still not starting, no idea why), I think WR & DL have become higher priorities than another CB at this point.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft I say no way we take a defensive player this draft. I'm fairly certain we'll re-sign Adalius and even if we don't, we still have former 2nd round pick Dan Cody.I think we go O-Line no matter what, either a center or RT.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Nov 28 2006, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So for the most part, in the past, I've been money on QB's. And I'm telling you, JaMarcus will be a stud in the NFL. Big arm, good mobility, good pocket presence, and most importantly: tons of poise. I'm even tempted to put him ahead of Quinn because I think Quinn needs the right system to succeed whereas JaMarcus could succeed under any system.</div>The one thing I can't get over about Russell is how much he tends to suck against any talented defense. Auburn and Florida both made him look silly, and even Tennessee forced him to throw 3 picks this year alone. Against Ranked Teams, he has put up a QB Rating of 100 in College only 2 of 13 tries. (2004 Bowl Game against Iowa in which he only threw 15 Passes, and Last week at Arkansas).If he can't get the job done against an good NCAA defense, what chance does he have in the Pros?</div>Against ranked teams, Brady Quinn has only had a QB rating over 100 twice out of 12 tries (2005 @ Purdue, 2005 @ Pittsburgh)So.... He's about as good as Brady Quinn by your standards. So I guess neither will be good in the Pro's?Brady Quinn: 2 out of 12 (2005 @ Purdue, 2005 @ Pittsburgh)JaMarcus Russell: 2 out of 13 (2004 BG vs Iowa, 2006 @ Arkansas)Brian Brohm: 2 out of 5 (2006 vs Miami [FL], 2006 @ West Virginia)Oh, and before you get all over Brohm, to use your same argument, in order to do that against Miami he only threw 14 passes.And just to show you this whole argument is nil:Chris Leak 7 out of 17 (2003 vs FSU, 2003 vs Georgia, 2003 @ LSU, 2004 @ Georgia, 2004 @ Tennessee, 2005 vs Georgia, 2006 @ Tennessee)Success in college is not the best predictor of success in the pros. Though I like Chris Leak, he is not a better pro prospect than JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft The Browns need an offensive line. You fix your needs then you can waste picks all you want. The Browns need to fix their offensive line.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft You are right that college success doesn't mean much when translating a QB. I just don't see anything other then a future Daunte Culpepper when it comes to Russell where he has all the tools, but will never be able to put them togeather. Whereas I think Quinn in the right system will be great but will be a bit of a dissapointment in the wrong system, and Brohm will be a star regardless. Just my views on them though. :thumbsup:
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft I don't think brad childress is a retard. You draft Jarrett in that position or trade down. Ginn will NOT be a good NFL player and at this point we need o-line in FA (that's one of the biggest markets in FA and the vikings are slated to be top 5 in cap room again). Take a wide receiver. The draft is full of them and Marcus Robinson and Troy Williamson can't be the future of the corps. DRAFT A WR!
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prior to the 2005 NFL draft I said both Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers would bust. So far it looks like I'm right.</div>Yeah.. good call.. thumbs down. Smith's team is doing a lot better than expected, despite not having their starting TE/1st round pick from this year for most of the year. And Smith himself is doing better. He's only 22 years old, and has played well this year.. and will only get better. Rodgers also hasn't had the chance to do anything because he hasn't really played. You can say that makes him a bust, but they wouldn't dare start Rodgers over Favre no matter how bad Favre was doing. So he cannot be considered a bust.And how do we know you're not lying about your other things... I said Peyton Manning would be arguably the best QB ever prior to his draft, and Leaf would be a bust. I also predicted Brady would turn into a great NFL QB and win many games.
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Nov 28 2006, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Nov 28 2006, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prior to the 2005 NFL draft I said both Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers would bust. So far it looks like I'm right.</div>Yeah.. good call.. thumbs down. Smith's team is doing a lot better than expected, despite not having their starting TE/1st round pick from this year for most of the year. And Smith himself is doing better. He's only 22 years old, and has played well this year.. and will only get better. Rodgers also hasn't had the chance to do anything because he hasn't really played. You can say that makes him a bust, but they wouldn't dare start Rodgers over Favre no matter how bad Favre was doing. So he cannot be considered a bust.And how do we know you're not lying about your other things... I said Peyton Manning would be arguably the best QB ever prior to his draft, and Leaf would be a bust. I also predicted Brady would turn into a great NFL QB and win many games. </div>
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Prior to the 2005 NFL draft I said both Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers would bust. So far it looks like I'm right.</div> - Jon Vilmaexcuse me?do you read my sig?Rodgers is a bust? How the fuck can you say that? He hasnt freakin started a game yet...Alex Smith 2006 stats(2nd year): CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT 182 299 1972 60.9 75 11 9 80.0projected:CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT 265 435 2868 60.9 75 16 13 80.0Eli Manning 2005 stats(2nd year):CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT294 557 3762 52.8 78 24 17 75.9really, thats a bust?if you say manning has been a bust, then you definately have no idea what you are talking about, smith has not been a bust, and neither is rodgers, he hasnt started a freaking game...how the hell can you call him a bustedit:i did not see the post two above mine by brooks, sorry for kinda takin out some rage on you
Re: Scott Wright's Mock Draft <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Nov 28 2006, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Prior to the 2005 NFL draft I said both Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers would bust. So far it looks like I'm right.</div> - Jon Vilmaif you say manning has been a bust, then you definately have no idea what you are talking about, smith has not been a bust, and neither is rodgers, he hasnt started a freaking game...how the hell can you call him a bust</div>I didn't say Manning would be a bust, I said Rivers and Roethlisberger would be more successful.And despite Alex Smith's amazing 80.0 QB rating, 12 TD's, and 13 Turnovers through 11 games this season, I still think he'll bust out.
