Biggest Pro-Bowl Snubs

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Pro Bowl voting gone wild: Brady leads top snubsBy Pete PriscoCBS SportsLine.com Senior WriterLet's quit calling them the Pro Bowl teams, and instead call them what they are: The Popularity Teams.After scanning the AFC and NFC Pro Bowl rosters, it's quite evident, once again, that something has to be done to fix the way these teams are selected. Too many deserving players are being left off.If a player has been selected to the game in the past, there will be a lot of sentiment for him to go back. Reputation means more than production.The tale of two Johns best exemplifies what I mean. The first John is Jacksonville Jaguars defensive tackle John Henderson, the second is Denver Broncos safety John Lynch.Henderson is the best defensive tackle in the league, period. He is a force against the run and improved as a pass rusher. Yet he isn't on the AFC team, despite being second in the fan voting. That means the players and the coaches flat out blew it.Anybody who watches tape should know what Henderson means to the second-ranked run defense in the NFL.Then there's Lynch. He has no business being on the AFC team, especially ahead of Kerry Rhodes of the New York Jets. Ask scouts or personnel directors who they would take and most would take Rhodes.Rhodes has 71 tackles, four sacks and four interceptions; Lynch has 48 tackles, no sacks and no interceptions. Yet Rhodes isn't even on the team. Why? Lynch is popular -- this will be his eighth Pro Bowl -- and Rhodes isn't as he waits for his first.So once again we've been reminded that the Pro Bowl teams are a big, giant joke. The Pro Bowl rosters really aren't the best players in the NFL, and that's a shame.Here are 10 more Pro Bowl caliber players who instead got stiffed by the Popularity Teams: Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: This one makes no sense, especially since he's one of the popular guys. Philip Rivers has had a nice season, but Brady should go ahead of him. He has more yards and more touchdown passes. His passer rating is lower, but Brady doesn't have L.T. behind him or Antonio Gates in front of him.Al Harris, CB, Packers: He has played a lot of man coverage, matched against the other team's best receivers. He and Charles Woodson form a heck of a corner duo. He should be going ahead of Ronde Barber and DeAngelo Hall.Sean Taylor, FS, Redskins: Cowboys safety Roy Williams has no business on this team, even though he's a strong safety and Taylor a free safety. Williams can't cover at all. Taylor is not only a big hitter, but he has range. There should be one strong safety (Adrian Wilson) and two free safeties (Taylor and Brian Dawkins). Terence Newman, CB, Cowboys: This is the one Cowboys secondary player who should be in the game. I told Newman last Saturday after the Cowboys-Falcons game that he was on my Pro Bowl team. "You got it right then," Newman said. Too bad the fans, the coaches and the players didn't.Fred Robbins, DT, Giants: He has been a force in the middle of the Giants line. There's no way Carolina's Kris Jenkins should be in before Robbins. Even Pat Williams of the Vikings should be in before Jenkins.Chris Snee, G, Giants: This guy is a mauler who should be in Hawaii. His spot is taken by San Francisco's Larry Allen. Wonder if reputation had anything to do with that one?Marcus McNeil, T, Chargers: He has been as good as any left tackle in the league. Just because he's a rookie doesn't mean he shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl.Keith Bulluck, LB, Titans: He's fourth in the league in tackles, has seven passes defensed and two sacks. His spot went to Terrell Suggs of the Ravens. Bulluck is having the better season.Ray Lewis, LB, Ravens: Yes, he got robbed. Lewis is still one of the best linebackers and the Ravens have the best defense in the league. There's no way Zach Thomas should be in ahead of Lewis.Chris Naeole, G, Jaguars: Brian Waters of the Chiefs deserves to be in the game, but Will Shields and Alan Faneca are going on reputation. Naeole had a better year than both of them and the Jaguars are the top rushing team in the AFC. That has to mean something.</div>I 100% agree with this article except for one player who got Snubbed and I think he should have made it in Brian Westbrook. Now I am a big Tiki Barber fan, but Brian Westbrook has an almost identical amount of all purpose yards and like 9 More Touchdowns. You can blame Brandon Jacobs for the lack of touchdowns all you want, but it has to count against him when all things are equal (Like in this scenario it is). Westbrook is among the most underrated players in the game year in and year out, and I think he deserves some respect for the year he is coming off of.
     
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    Fred Robbins didn't do enough to make a pro-bowl.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 20 2006, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fred Robbins didn't do enough to make a pro-bowl.</div>He's not a name player by any means, but he's had a very good year (5.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 2 Fumbles Recovered) for a pretty good Run Defense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Snee, G, Giants: This guy is a mauler who should be in Hawaii. His spot is taken by San Francisco's Larry Allen. Wonder if reputation had anything to do with that one?</div>I agree with almost the whole article except for this. If it werent for Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings, Frank Gore would be nowhere. Allen is the main reason Gore had such an explosive year. Allen deserved the spot. So did Jennings, but, no way in hell he was going to beat out some of the other tackles in the NFC.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 20 2006, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Snee, G, Giants: This guy is a mauler who should be in Hawaii. His spot is taken by San Francisco's Larry Allen. Wonder if reputation had anything to do with that one?</div>I agree with almost the whole article except for this. If it werent for Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings, Frank Gore would be nowhere. Allen is the main reason Gore had such an explosive year. Allen deserved the spot. So did Jennings, but, no way in hell he was going to beat out some of the other tackles in the NFC.</div>Snee's deserved to be a Pro-Bowler for 2 seasons now man. He's having as good a season as Larry Allen has when healthy, except Snee has played every single game for the Giants.
     
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    yeah, but Tiki Barber hasnt had a season like Frank Gore. It's because of Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings that Gore had/is having the season hes had/is having.
     
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    Little.Ray Lewis maybe deserved it, but not over Zach Thomas. When you lead the league in tackles, you should probably be in the Pro Bowl. (including his 21 fucking tackles last week).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Dec 20 2006, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 20 2006, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fred Robbins didn't do enough to make a pro-bowl.</div>He's not a name player by any means, but he's had a very good year (5.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 2 Fumbles Recovered) for a pretty good Run Defense.</div>That to me is not pro-bowl caliber... yet
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 20 2006, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Dec 20 2006, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 20 2006, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fred Robbins didn't do enough to make a pro-bowl.</div>He's not a name player by any means, but he's had a very good year (5.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 2 Fumbles Recovered) for a pretty good Run Defense.</div>That to me is not pro-bowl caliber... yet</div>That's funny, cause all 3 DT's that made it had worse numbers. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 20 2006, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, but Tiki Barber hasnt had a season like Frank Gore. It's because of Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings that Gore had/is having the season hes had/is having.</div>This is what Frank Gore did without Larry Allen in the lineup.STL - 127 Rushing (4.4 YPA), 10 Recieveing, TDPHI - 52 Rushing (3.3 YPA), 22 Recieveing KC - 65 Rushing (4.6 YPA), 14 RecieveingOAK - 134 Rushing (5.0 YPA), 38 RecieveingSD - 55 Rushing (5.5 YPA), 35 RecieveingWith Yards Per Attempt of 4.4, 4.6, 5.0, and 5.5 without Larry Allen I'd say not having him wasn't the problem. The problem would be the 49ers not getting him the ball enough to build up the Stats. [​IMG]
     
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    Maynard and Jones got snubbed
     
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    If TONY ROMO [who] made it then Ladell Betts should've!! [​IMG] 1. Al Harris ! ! ! ! !2. Tom Brady3. Sean Taylor
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Dec 20 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If TONY ROMO [who] made it then Ladell Betts should've!! [​IMG] 1. Al Harris ! ! ! ! !2. Tom Brady3. Sean Taylor</div>All 3 NFC Runningbacks had a minimum of 1700 yards between Rushing and Recieveing. So but there is no way in hell that Ladell Betts deserves to crack the Pro-Bowl with the quality of the ones who did make it. Meanwhile NFC is thin at Quarterback and realistically the choices were Tony Romo, Jeff Garcia, or Michael Vick. lol
     
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    Westbrook got snubbed. He has more total yards than anyone on that list.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Dec 21 2006, 06:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Westbrook got snubbed. He has more total yards than anyone on that list.</div>Actually, he has less then all 3 of the NFC backs, but the difference between him and Barber is only like 40 yards. Westbrook however had 9 more Touchdowns so I agree that he got Snubbed as he deserved the spot going to Tiki Barber. I guess the NFL just wanted to give him a going away present.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Dec 20 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 20 2006, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, but Tiki Barber hasnt had a season like Frank Gore. It's because of Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings that Gore had/is having the season hes had/is having.</div>This is what Frank Gore did without Larry Allen in the lineup.STL - 127 Rushing (4.4 YPA), 10 Recieveing, TDPHI - 52 Rushing (3.3 YPA), 22 Recieveing KC - 65 Rushing (4.6 YPA), 14 RecieveingOAK - 134 Rushing (5.0 YPA), 38 RecieveingSD - 55 Rushing (5.5 YPA), 35 RecieveingWith Yards Per Attempt of 4.4, 4.6, 5.0, and 5.5 without Larry Allen I'd say not having him wasn't the problem. The problem would be the 49ers not getting him the ball enough to build up the Stats. [​IMG]</div>Dude, what are you talking about, 52 rushing yards, 65, and 55, you think that's good? No way man! That's terrible, you kind of just proved my point. Frank Gore gets the ball more then anybody else on the team, whether it's rushing or receiving. If Larry Allen had played those other games, he would have gotten much better statistics.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 21 2006, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Dec 20 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 20 2006, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, but Tiki Barber hasnt had a season like Frank Gore. It's because of Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings that Gore had/is having the season hes had/is having.</div>This is what Frank Gore did without Larry Allen in the lineup.STL - 127 Rushing (4.4 YPA), 10 Recieveing, TDPHI - 52 Rushing (3.3 YPA), 22 Recieveing KC - 65 Rushing (4.6 YPA), 14 RecieveingOAK - 134 Rushing (5.0 YPA), 38 RecieveingSD - 55 Rushing (5.5 YPA), 35 RecieveingWith Yards Per Attempt of 4.4, 4.6, 5.0, and 5.5 without Larry Allen I'd say not having him wasn't the problem. The problem would be the 49ers not getting him the ball enough to build up the Stats. [​IMG]</div>Dude, what are you talking about, 52 rushing yards, 65, and 55, you think that's good? No way man! That's terrible, you kind of just proved my point. Frank Gore gets the ball more then anybody else on the team, whether it's rushing or receiving. If Larry Allen had played those other games, he would have gotten much better statistics.</div>4.6 and 5.5 Yards Per Attempt is Damn Good man, there was only one bad game out of the 5. :whistling: It's not Frank Gore's fault that they refused to give him the ball.
     
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    ok, and then Allen came back and Gore had what was it, 6 straight 100-yard rushing games?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Dec 21 2006, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok, and then Allen came back and Gore had what was it, 6 straight 100-yard rushing games?</div>6 out of 8 Games (+ 0 for 1 Pre-Injury). Longest streak was 3 in a row.It doesn't really matter though because im sure if we took Chris Snee off the Giants Offensive Line there would be a similar 'drop in production' for Tiki Barber. So why is it worth argueing?
     

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