<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>NEW YORK -- One rotator cuff injury often is enough to ruin a premier athlete's career. Chad Pennington overcame two in two years to win The Associated Press NFL Comeback Player of the Year award.The New York Jets had become too accustomed to seeing Pennington leave the field with a damaged right shoulder. After the 2004 season and again midway through 2005, he underwent surgery to repair his right rotator cuff.There's was so much doubt about Pennington returning to form that the Jets had four quarterbacks in training camp last summer, including a second-round draft pick.So all the seven-year veteran did was lead the Jets to a surprising 10-6 record and a wild-card berth one season after they went 4-12 -- most of it with him sidelined -- and changed coaches. Pennington's precise execution of a short passing game made Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery into 1,000-yard receivers and offset a mediocre running game.Not surprisingly, Pennington didn't see winning the award, announced Thursday, as an individual honor."The organization has been great in providing me with all kinds of special resources to get back healthy and play at a high level," he said. "My teammates have been behind me since Day 1. For us to be able to put it together out on the field would mean a lot ... it's been such a team effort."Pennington's efforts earned him 27 votes in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. He finished far ahead of two other quarterbacks, Drew Brees of New Orleans (8?) and Carson Palmer of Cincinnati (5?)."He never reinvented himself," Coles said of Pennington, who passed for a career-best 3,352 yards and finished second in the AFC with a 95.7 passer rating. "You all [in the media] were the ones who left him for dead. I'm pretty sure he didn't leave himself for dead or he wouldn't be in this situation. And I definitely didn't. He never went anywhere."Well, actually Pennington went under the knife twice, and because he's never had a particularly strong arm, his return to prominence was highly questioned. But through rehab and meetings, he clearly had mastered the offense of new coach Eric Mangini and coordinator Brian Schottenheimer by early August.And there never was any doubt he would beat out the other three QBs in camp once Pennington began throwing as accurately as ever.When Pennington was hit hard or sacked, he bounced up and went right back to work. Most notably against Houston, he took a huge hit and stayed down because he had the breath knocked out of him. Well aware of the hushed crowd, Pennington pumped his fist as he walked off the field, assuring the fans he and his right arm were fine."Chad is a tough guy," veteran guard Pete Kendall said. "I think anybody who stands back there is a tough guy, it's just that some guys unfortunately have been injured more than others. But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with toughness."When you talk about toughness, you have to talk about mental toughness as much as, or moreso than physical toughness. Chad is way up there; he's a mentally tough guy. To be quarterback in this market, with the ups and downs that comes along with playing quarterback, and to go through what he has gone through, then come back and still play well, you have to be a tough guy to do that."Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow received four votes, followed by two Eagles: QB Jeff Garcia with two, RB Correll Buckhalter with one.Denver receiver Javon Walker, New Orleans RB Deuce McAllister and Tennessee RB Travis Henry each got one vote.Pennington is the fifth quarterback to win the award in its nine years; Drew Brees won it in 2004. He is the first Jet to win.Last year's recipients were New England linebacker Tedy Bruschi and Carolina receiver Steve Smith.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chad Pennington: 27Drew Brees: 8.5Carson Palmer: 5.5Kellen Winslow: 4Jeff Garcia: 2Correll Buckhalter: 1Javon Walker: 1Deuce McAllister: 1Travis Henry: 1</div>
Ahh, the one award nobody likes to win.Congratulations to Chad, I'm sure there is nobody in the NFL who has gone through anything quite like he has with 2 Rotator Cuff injuries (Which one alone can be career threatening) in a span of 8 months.
Pennington had a below average QB rating and had a bad year for a QB, any QB. Throwing nearly as many TD's as interceptions. Furthermore, Brees and Palmer didn't even miss playing time.It is horrid that Winslow, playing in a position where he recieves the ball, recieved and caught more passes than anybody in his position in the LEAGUE. Yet he gets nothing for it. It just goes to show that the Pro Bowl and the media awards are all about name recognition and not individual achievements.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pennington had a below average QB rating and had a bad year for a QB, any QB. Throwing nearly as many TD's as interceptions. Furthermore, Brees and Palmer didn't even miss playing time.It is horrid that Winslow, playing in a position where he recieves the ball, recieved and caught more passes than anybody in his position in the LEAGUE. Yet he gets nothing for it. It just goes to show that the Pro Bowl and the media awards are all about name recognition and not individual achievements.</div>Still biased? He had a bad year for any QB, but he is one of only 12 QB's that has lead his team the the playoffs? I don't think you understand what Kellen Winslow did for the Browns... Well, next to nothing. Pennington brought a playoff run, leadership, and hopes. Winslow didn't win any games by himself for the team, and quite frankly we all knew it was either Pennington or Brees who would win.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 4 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pennington had a below average QB rating and had a bad year for a QB, any QB. Throwing nearly as many TD's as interceptions. Furthermore, Brees and Palmer didn't even miss playing time.It is horrid that Winslow, playing in a position where he recieves the ball, recieved and caught more passes than anybody in his position in the LEAGUE. Yet he gets nothing for it. It just goes to show that the Pro Bowl and the media awards are all about name recognition and not individual achievements.</div>Still biased? He had a bad year for any QB, but he is one of only 12 QB's that has lead his team the the playoffs? I don't think you understand what Kellen Winslow did for the Browns... Well, next to nothing. Pennington brought a playoff run, leadership, and hopes. Winslow didn't win any games by himself for the team, and quite frankly we all knew it was either Pennington or Brees who would win.</div>Oh, ok. I thought that Comeback Player of the Year was for, well, the year. Not the postseason.When is the comeback awards for the year coming out? Since this is the awards for the postseason.Since this is after all only about the postseason.Grossman should have won. He's been injured the last two years and he has made the Bears have the best record in the NFC./END SARCASMIt is a complete and total robbery. The Pro bowl I can understand. But this I cannot. Brees was not injured last year, so what is he coming back from? Palmer was not injured last year, what is he coming back from. Both those QB's started all 16 games for their teams last season. Winslow had a freaking motorcycle accident and in his rookie season broke his leg. Then he comes back to tie a franchise record for TE and leads all players at his position in receptions and yards. When just last year he was walking with crutches and also in the hospital.
^^i agree with you on this one. he was also on my fantasy team and helped lead my team to a league victory (plus i had LT, but thats another story in itself )
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, ok. I thought that Comeback Player of the Year was for, well, the year. Not the postseason.When is the comeback awards for the year coming out? Since this is the awards for the postseason.Since this is after all only about the postseason.Grossman should have won. He's been injured the last two years and he has made the Bears have the best record in the NFC./END SARCASM</div>Look at it the MLB way. Jeter got screwed on MVP because his team was good, and A-Rod used to get screwed on MVP because his team sucked (pre-Yankees).The writers take heavly into consideration of whether or not your team would have made the playoffs without you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It is a complete and total robbery. The Pro bowl I can understand. But this I cannot. Brees was not injured last year, so what is he coming back from? Palmer was not injured last year, what is he coming back from. Both those QB's started all 16 games for their teams last season. Winslow had a freaking motorcycle accident and in his rookie season broke his leg. Then he comes back to tie a franchise record for TE and leads all players at his position in receptions and yards. When just last year he was walking with crutches and also in the hospital.</div> :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Carson Palmer underwent reconstructive surgery on his injured knee in Houston, Texas on January 10, 2006. Dr. Lonnie Paulos, a surgeon who is independent of the Cincinnati Bengals, performed the operation. Initially, the Bengals organization stated that Palmer had torn the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments with no other damage. However, Dr. Paulos later told the Associated Press that the damage was more extensive and included a dislocation of the kneecap. Dr. Paulos called the injury "devastating and potentially career-ending", which drew a derisive comment from Palmer that implied Paulos simply liked to see his name in print. The Bengals later accepted Dr. Paulos' account [3], however, Carson Palmer promised he'd be at quarterback in the Bengals' regular season opener at Kansas City on September 10, 2006.</div>Palmer was told by a doctor his career was over! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Brees underwent arthroscopic surgery to repair the torn labrum in his right (throwing) shoulder on January 5th, 2006. Subsequent reports mention rotator cuff damage as well, making the injury much more serious than it was originally described.</div> :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: Winslow breaks a leg which has nothing to do with catching the ball, but of course it is more serious than THE THROWING ARM THAT BREES USES!!!!!! PLEASE GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR CLEVELAND ASS!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 4 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pennington had a below average QB rating and had a bad year for a QB, any QB. Throwing nearly as many TD's as interceptions. Furthermore, Brees and Palmer didn't even miss playing time.It is horrid that Winslow, playing in a position where he recieves the ball, recieved and caught more passes than anybody in his position in the LEAGUE. Yet he gets nothing for it. It just goes to show that the Pro Bowl and the media awards are all about name recognition and not individual achievements.</div>Still biased? He had a bad year for any QB, but he is one of only 12 QB's that has lead his team the the playoffs? I don't think you understand what Kellen Winslow did for the Browns... Well, next to nothing. Pennington brought a playoff run, leadership, and hopes. Winslow didn't win any games by himself for the team, and quite frankly we all knew it was either Pennington or Brees who would win.</div>Oh, ok. I thought that Comeback Player of the Year was for, well, the year. Not the postseason.When is the comeback awards for the year coming out? Since this is the awards for the postseason.Since this is after all only about the postseason.Grossman should have won. He's been injured the last two years and he has made the Bears have the best record in the NFC./END SARCASMIt is a complete and total robbery. The Pro bowl I can understand. But this I cannot. Brees was not injured last year, so what is he coming back from? Palmer was not injured last year, what is he coming back from. Both those QB's started all 16 games for their teams last season. Winslow had a freaking motorcycle accident and in his rookie season broke his leg. Then he comes back to tie a franchise record for TE and leads all players at his position in receptions and yards. When just last year he was walking with crutches and also in the hospital.</div>Oh yes, you know. Chad Pennington Suffering a Potentially Career Ending Injury TWICE in a span of 8 months isn't a bit more serious then Winslow's poor ACL. It's a medical miracle that Pennington is even playing in the NFL, nevermind at the level that he has been.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 4 2007, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: Winslow breaks a leg which has nothing to do with catching the ball, but of course it is more serious than THE THROWING ARM THAT BREES USES!!!!!! PLEASE GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR CLEVELAND ASS!</div>So, let me get this straight. A TE does not need legs or knees to play his position?That is something very new to me. I was under the impression that TE's had to run, jump, and catch the ball.The injuries that Winslow recieved in his motorcycle accident were quite severe and his career could have very well been over as well. Then he came back and led all people in his skill position in receptions and yards.I would like to ask you Mr. Comeback, what does Chad Pennington lead the NFL in?Furthermore, I do not like being treated like Shit by you, so you'd better drop your damn attitude ASAP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 4 2007, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, let me get this straight. A TE does not need legs or knees to play his position?That is something very new to me. I was under the impression that TE's had to run, jump, and catch the ball.The injuries that Winslow recieved in his motorcycle accident were quite severe and his career could have very well been over as well. Then he came back and led all people in his skill position in receptions and yards.I would like to ask you Mr. Comeback, what does Chad Pennington lead the NFL in?Furthermore, I do not like being treated like Shit by you, so you'd better drop your damn attitude ASAP.</div>Lets put it this way. A torn Rotator Cuff Surgury has a proven history of ending NFL Careers, and it has been considered the Death of a Quarterback for years as at one point in time nobody recovered from it. Pennington did it twice in the span of 8 months. There is a reason that he was completely counted out before the season and that was in order for him to return, he would have to defy all logic and reason to fully recover. Not only did he do exactly that, but he also had to take a severe paycut just to stay on an NFL roster and participate in a 4 way Quarterback Controversy and he was the best QB from the very first day.NOBODY has overcome the amount of obstacles to win this award as Pennington has. NOBODY. Then adding in that Pennington set career highs in yards and other areas as well and as crticial as I am of Pennington, he deserved to win this award.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I bet he's going to say Braylon Edwards is next comeback player. :LMAO:</div>and why would I say Braylon Edwards is the next comeback player?Because he likes shoving his QB's on the sideline and talking shit to his fellow teamates? Please tell me why you think Braylon Edwards is worthy of being a comeback player?and like I said above, I do not like being treated with disrespect and like shit, so stop F'N doing it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 5 2007, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I bet he's going to say Braylon Edwards is next comeback player. :LMAO:</div>and why would I say Braylon Edwards is the next comeback player?Because he likes shoving his QB's on the sideline and talking shit to his fellow teamates? Please tell me why you think Braylon Edwards is worthy of being a comeback player?and like I said above, I do not like being treated with disrespect and like shit, so stop F'N doing it.</div>No one cares that you don't like being disrespected. The point is, you have your head in your ass and think the Browns are everything. There is not one Browns player, besides Jim Brown, that is worth any mention, and the same statement still applies to today's team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 5 2007, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Jan 5 2007, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I bet he's going to say Braylon Edwards is next comeback player. :LMAO:</div>and why would I say Braylon Edwards is the next comeback player?Because he likes shoving his QB's on the sideline and talking shit to his fellow teamates? Please tell me why you think Braylon Edwards is worthy of being a comeback player?and like I said above, I do not like being treated with disrespect and like shit, so stop F'N doing it.</div>No one cares that you don't like being disrespected. The point is, you have your head in your ass and think the Browns are everything. There is not one Browns player, besides Jim Brown, that is worth any mention, and the same statement still applies to today's team.</div>You can show him a little respect, he did have a few valid points for Winslow Jr, but Pennington is more deserving this year IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 5 2007, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No one cares that you don't like being disrespected. The point is, you have your head in your ass and think the Browns are everything. There is not one Browns player, besides Jim Brown, that is worth any mention, and the same statement still applies to today's team.</div>I'm soo sorry you feel that way about the Browns. But I for one know full well that there are a hell of a lot of people before Jim Brown that made the HOF and there were a hell of a lot of players after Jim Brown retired that are damn well worth mentioning. You are nothing but a hater through and through with delusions of grandeur.