<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's possible the Yankees' sudden accumulation of young, cheap talent that would be acquired in both the Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield deals is leading to a mega-swap with the Twins, who've undoubtedly calculated (and fainted at) the cost of keeping Johan Santana after he becomes a free agent in two years. Cashman's army of youngsters might be the escape the Twins would need, given that Barry Zito is now earning $18 million per year.</div>It's just speculation, but it makes sense. Sanchez, Tabata, Melky, etc. Essentially send them their choice of prospects (minus Hughes who we will not trade). Send 6 or 7 prospects their way, get Johan Santana (and a mega-contract extension waiting for him) in return. Have Santana-Wang as our 1-2 for years to come, Mussina-Pettitte in the short term, and Igawa + Hughes as the future. I still think Igawa ends up in the pen as our future closer though, but if Hughes turns out as he should, a Santana-Wang-Hughes 1-2-3 would be amazing.Santana would likely command a 25-27 mil per year contract for 5 or 6 years. So a 6 year 156 million dollar contract might be just what the doctor ordered.
Also:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Roger Clemens' agent, Randy Hendricks, has advised him to wait until midseason to return, The New York Times reports. The Yankees will let Clemens make his own timetable, but they are determined not to be outbid for him.The Astros and Red Sox also have interest in Clemens, but Clemens seems to have grown weary of Houston's lack of run support. It would be surprising if Clemens chose to sign with Boston for a lower salary instead of returning to the Yankees, where he could remain teammates with Andy Pettitte, his close friend.</div>Sweet.
:drool: I think Clemens is definite. I think I'd rather have Zambrano over Santana next year, only because we'd be able to hold onto basically our entire future and honestly I like Zambrano's chances of holding up in New York better than Santana's. Gotta love his intensity.Obviously Santana is the better pitcher, so you really can't go wrong either way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 5 2007, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:drool: I think Clemens is definite. I think I'd rather have Zambrano over Santana next year, only because we'd be able to hold onto basically our entire future and honestly I like Zambrano's chances of holding up in New York better than Santana's. Gotta love his intensity.Obviously Santana is the better pitcher, so you really can't go wrong either way.</div>True. But why not both? Santana-Zambrano-Wang-Hughes for the future... :drool:
You won't get Johan, don't worry. You better just hope Big Z gets to free agency.And you won't deal Hughes for Santana.... good luck getting him then (even though we won't trade him).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jan 5 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You won't get Johan, don't worry. You better just hope Big Z gets to free agency.And you won't deal Hughes for Santana.... good luck getting him then (even though we won't trade him).</div>You can't afford the 150+ mil. dollar contract he deserves.
Keep Dreaming.Especially at the idea of getting him while keeping Hughes, because they're not going to give up the best pitcher in baseball for a couple of mediocre prospects. We're talking multiple top prospects will be needed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jan 6 2007, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jan 5 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You won't get Johan, don't worry. You better just hope Big Z gets to free agency.And you won't deal Hughes for Santana.... good luck getting him then (even though we won't trade him).</div>You can't afford the 150+ mil. dollar contract he deserves.</div>Yeah we can. We have the money, we just don't spend it. But when it comes to it we will spend it to keep Johan. Mauer is reportedly going to get 10 mil a year, Morneau the same probably. Soon, CP will learn he's going to have to spend some money if he's going to turn all of these kids into superstars. Don't worry, we'll keep Johan.
All you Yankees fans here need to get your heads out of your asses and realize that Johan and Zambrano are not going to join the Evil Empire
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Jan 6 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All you Yankees fans here need to get your heads out of your asses and realize that Johan and Zambrano are not going to join the Evil Empire</div>Ben Affleck wannabe.
i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jan 7 2007, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us</div>The Sox are just as bad, but cut the crap. You're still spending twice as much as the majority of other baseball teams are, if not more.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 7 2007, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jan 7 2007, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us</div>The Sox are just as bad, but cut the crap. You're still spending twice as much as the majority of other baseball teams are, if not more.</div>You are pretty much blaming Starbucks for being successful and having the money to set up stores right down the street from each other. Being successful isn't a crime you know. I don't want the Yankees to cut their payroll in half, I want the Cubs, Mets, Giants, Twins, Angels, and Dodgers to all spend more. I DO want the Yankees to be more prospect and youth friendly, just to clarify, but while the Yankees might be the richest team, the teams I just listed definitely aren't poor. In fact the Twins' ownership has almost 10 times the money that the Yankees ownership has in it's pockets. The fact that they haven't spent much is a crime.
^Same w/ the Cubs. For years, we feed the cash cow all this money and they pocketed it. Only in the last few years have they started spending it, and finally they started spending it the way we want them to
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Jan 7 2007, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Same w/ the Cubs. For years, we feed the cash cow all this money and they pocketed it. Only in the last few years have they started spending it, and finally they started spending it the way we want them to</div>You mean by grossly overpaying for mediocre players like Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis? :whistling:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Jan 7 2007, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 7 2007, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jan 7 2007, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us</div>The Sox are just as bad, but cut the crap. You're still spending twice as much as the majority of other baseball teams are, if not more.</div>You are pretty much blaming Starbucks for being successful and having the money to set up stores right down the street from each other. Being successful isn't a crime you know. I don't want the Yankees to cut their payroll in half, I want the Cubs, Mets, Giants, Twins, Angels, and Dodgers to all spend more. I DO want the Yankees to be more prospect and youth friendly, just to clarify, but while the Yankees might be the richest team, the teams I just listed definitely aren't poor. In fact the Twins' ownership has almost 10 times the money that the Yankees ownership has in it's pockets. The fact that they haven't spent much is a crime.</div>Why is it a crime? Winning the AL Central 4 of the past 5 years, even without spending Yankee money is bad? We can be successful with our players, and without spending money.. I don't see how that's a crime. I don't think the way the Yankees do thing is a crime, I think it's stupid, but that may be because I'm not used to it.
[quote name='Brooksie5' post='80173' date='Jan 7 2007, 11:44 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='80162' date='Jan 7 2007, 12:23 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='80156' date='Jan 7 2007, 09:00 AM'][quote name='Nebkreb' post='80154' date='Jan 7 2007, 07:41 AM']i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us[/quote]The Sox are just as bad, but cut the crap. You're still spending twice as much as the majority of other baseball teams are, if not more.[/quote]You are pretty much blaming Starbucks for being successful and having the money to set up stores right down the street from each other. Being successful isn't a crime you know. I don't want the Yankees to cut their payroll in half, I want the Cubs, Mets, Giants, Twins, Angels, and Dodgers to all spend more. I DO want the Yankees to be more prospect and youth friendly, just to clarify, but while the Yankees might be the richest team, the teams I just listed definitely aren't poor. In fact the Twins' ownership has almost 10 times the money that the Yankees ownership has in it's pockets. The fact that they haven't spent much is a crime.[/quote]Why is it a crime? Winning the AL Central 4 of the past 5 years, even without spending Yankee money is bad? We can be successful with our players, and without spending money.. I don't see how that's a crime. I don't think the way the Yankees do thing is a crime, I think it's stupid, but that may be because I'm not used to it.[/quote]Because they complain ab out not having all the pieces when they could easily afford the last couple pieces to the puzzle.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='80175' date='Jan 7 2007, 01:48 PM'][quote name='Brooksie5' post='80173' date='Jan 7 2007, 11:44 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='80162' date='Jan 7 2007, 12:23 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='80156' date='Jan 7 2007, 09:00 AM'][quote name='Nebkreb' post='80154' date='Jan 7 2007, 07:41 AM']i lvoe that people still refer to us as the Evil Empire, when in the past few years, we've cut down on spending while the Sox have spent more and more. The Sox are just as bad, if not worse because they still act like theyre little guys, when in reality, they spend jsut as much as us[/quote]The Sox are just as bad, but cut the crap. You're still spending twice as much as the majority of other baseball teams are, if not more.[/quote]You are pretty much blaming Starbucks for being successful and having the money to set up stores right down the street from each other. Being successful isn't a crime you know. I don't want the Yankees to cut their payroll in half, I want the Cubs, Mets, Giants, Twins, Angels, and Dodgers to all spend more. I DO want the Yankees to be more prospect and youth friendly, just to clarify, but while the Yankees might be the richest team, the teams I just listed definitely aren't poor. In fact the Twins' ownership has almost 10 times the money that the Yankees ownership has in it's pockets. The fact that they haven't spent much is a crime.[/quote]Why is it a crime? Winning the AL Central 4 of the past 5 years, even without spending Yankee money is bad? We can be successful with our players, and without spending money.. I don't see how that's a crime. I don't think the way the Yankees do thing is a crime, I think it's stupid, but that may be because I'm not used to it.[/quote]Because they complain ab out not having all the pieces when they could easily afford the last couple pieces to the puzzle.[/quote]No one has complained about anything...
