<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nonetheless, you can use a starter's pistol to mark the beginning of Jones trade talk when the Super Bowl ends. The hot rumor is that one of the New York teams is going to make an offer to the Bears -- either the Giants to replace Tiki Barber or the Jets to replace Curtis Martin.</div>http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mulligan/23...mully29.article - Full ArticleSounds like speculation to me, but I'd rather the Jets didn't do this move. The guy is already 28 which means at best he might have 3 years left in the tank. Unless it costs a mid-rounder I wouldn't be interested.
I don't think this would be a wise move for either team. The Jets MIGHT look at it, but anything over a 4th rounder or so would be a waste. Even lower pick for the Giants. I think they have something special in Brandon Jacobs.
The Jones-Jacobs tag team could work well for the G-Men. Jones is a shifty, cut-back type runner, while Jacobs is a big bruiser who just runs through walls. Kind of like the Jones-Benson team we got right now
I think Jones and Jacobs would be good for the Giants, real good. Jets already have shifty, speedy RBs...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.</div>He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.</div>He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...</div>No, he is not good enough.
There are so many good backs in football, as long as you have a good offensive line and a decent back you'll do fine. I don't see the point in spending too much money on him, although he's had backup-like carry numbers the first 5 years of his career which has probably kept him relatively fresh...I think Jones still has a lot left in the tank.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Street @ Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.</div>He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...</div>No, he is not good enough.</div>And why is that?
TJ would help the jets alot more than helping the giants in my opinion. This trade would mean Cedric Benson gets his time to shine.
[quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='82929' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:13 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:[/quote]I agree with you that he can be pretty damn effective behind a better line, so I dont see why they would need to add a "Franchise Back." They should look for a big back that can move a little in the Draft (Mid-round) to compliment him though, for a good young 1-2 punch. With Ferguson and Mangold gettin alotta experience last year, the line should be improved nicely in 07 for their runnin game.
Injuries killed the Jets the past few years on the o-line. I can see Kendall being wiped off and retiring and that affecting the LG spot, he might have 1 season left. What the Jets do to fill in this line? No god damn idea.
[quote name='david81' post='82933' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:28 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='82929' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:13 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:[/quote]I agree with you that he can be pretty damn effective behind a better line, so I dont see why they would need to add a "Franchise Back." They should look for a big back that can move a little in the Draft (Mid-round) to compliment him though, for a good young 1-2 punch. With Ferguson and Mangold gettin alotta experience last year, the line should be improved nicely in 07 for their runnin game.[/quote]You are talking about Tony Hunt.A good late round option would be Tyrone Moss.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='82967' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:24 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82933' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:28 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='82929' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:13 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:[/quote]I agree with you that he can be pretty damn effective behind a better line, so I dont see why they would need to add a "Franchise Back." They should look for a big back that can move a little in the Draft (Mid-round) to compliment him though, for a good young 1-2 punch. With Ferguson and Mangold gettin alotta experience last year, the line should be improved nicely in 07 for their runnin game.[/quote]You are talking about Tony Hunt.A good late round option would be Tyrone Moss.[/quote]Hunt will not be available in the mid-rounds. I was actually thinkin Kolby Smith, Tyrone Moss, or DeShawn Wynn.
[quote name='david81' post='82972' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='82967' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:24 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82933' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:28 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='82929' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:13 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:[/quote]I agree with you that he can be pretty damn effective behind a better line, so I dont see why they would need to add a "Franchise Back." They should look for a big back that can move a little in the Draft (Mid-round) to compliment him though, for a good young 1-2 punch. With Ferguson and Mangold gettin alotta experience last year, the line should be improved nicely in 07 for their runnin game.[/quote]You are talking about Tony Hunt.A good late round option would be Tyrone Moss.[/quote]Hunt will not be available in the mid-rounds. I was actually thinkin Kolby Smith, Tyrone Moss, or DeShawn Wynn.[/quote]Smith isn't a big pounder, he's more a jack-of-all-trades, and you think Hunt will be drafted in the 2nd round?
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='82974' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:34 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82972' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='82967' date='Jan 30 2007, 06:24 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82933' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:28 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='82929' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:13 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82912' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:13 PM'][quote name='Street' post='82907' date='Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM'][quote name='david81' post='82902' date='Jan 30 2007, 04:51 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='82899' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:47 PM']No they don't... Leon Washington is the only "speedy and shifty" guy they have.[/quote]He's good enough, and very young. Thought he is very speedy/quick and shifty...[/quote]No, he is not good enough.[/quote]And why is that?[/quote]I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:[/quote]I agree with you that he can be pretty damn effective behind a better line, so I dont see why they would need to add a "Franchise Back." They should look for a big back that can move a little in the Draft (Mid-round) to compliment him though, for a good young 1-2 punch. With Ferguson and Mangold gettin alotta experience last year, the line should be improved nicely in 07 for their runnin game.[/quote]You are talking about Tony Hunt.A good late round option would be Tyrone Moss.[/quote]Hunt will not be available in the mid-rounds. I was actually thinkin Kolby Smith, Tyrone Moss, or DeShawn Wynn.[/quote]Smith isn't a big pounder, he's more a jack-of-all-trades, and you think Hunt will be drafted in the 2nd round?[/quote]Smith has a nice big upper-body, he sure looks big. At this point, Hunt would go in the late-2nd at worst.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 30 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Washington personally, the Jets Run Blocking was poor last year and Washington still put up 4.3 a carry, I think he could do some damage behind a good line. Problem is everyone is so set on having a 'Franchise Back' that you can hand off to 300 times and because of Washington's size they view him as a Situational Back. :glare:</div>Jags fans agree with you
