<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>WASHINGTON - The rival presidential campaigns of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) traded accusations of nasty politics Wednesday over Hollywood donor David Geffen, who once backed Bill Clinton but now supports his wife's top rival.The Clinton campaign demanded that Obama denounce comments made by the DreamWorks movie studio founder, who told New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd in Wednesday's editions that while "everybody in politics lies," the former president and his wife "do it with such ease, it's troubling."The Clinton camp also called on Obama to give back Geffen's $2,300 contribution.Campaigning in Iowa, Obama refused."It's not clear to me why I'd be apologizing for someone else's remark," the Illinois senator said.For her part, New York Sen. Clinton sidestepped questions, leaving the issue to her aides to discuss."I'm just going to stay focused on my campaign and I'm going to run a positive campaign about the issues that affect the people in our country," she told The Associated Press in an interview in Nevada. She was participating a candidate forum in Carson City.The Clinton team seemed eager to continue the attack. With Obama in Iowa, aides arranged for former Iowa attorney general Bonnie Campbell to criticize him in a conference call with reporters.In the newspaper interview, Geffen also said Bill Clinton is "a reckless guy" and he does not thinkHillary Clinton can bring the country together during a time of war, no matter how smart or ambitious she is.Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs added another criticism of Clinton."It is also ironic that Senator Clinton lavished praise on Monday and is fully willing to accept today the support of South Carolina state Sen. Robert Ford, who said if Barack Obama were to win the nomination, he would drag down the rest of the Democratic Party because 'he's black,'" Gibbs' statement said.Ford later apologized. The Clinton campaign said it disagreed with Ford, but the senator has embraced his support.Another Democratic presidential candidate, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, said at the candidate forum that Obama should denounce Geffen's comments. "We Democrats should all sign a pledge that we all be positive," Richardson said.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Feb 22 2007, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm a slave.</div>Does that make me a master?
I'd be a bit upset too if someone who helped to donate 20 million dollars in the past went to work for your main competition too. That's alot of advertising money. Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 22 2007, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd be a bit upset too if someone who helped to donate 20 million dollars in the past went to work for your main competition too. That's alot of advertising money. Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:</div>It's petty to bitch and moan because a former supporter now supports someone else.An Obama-Edwards ticket would be unstoppable in an election. And a good governoring pairing as well. Obama brings the midwest, Edwards brings the south. The Republicans would have to win all three California, Texas, and Florida in order to stop the Democrats from winning.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:</div>Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Feb 22 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:</div>Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.</div>FDR had the New Deal that set up the growing economy of America for the next half century... :whistling:The biggest do-nothing President was LBJ who gets credit for finishing all the program setups that JFK started.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Feb 22 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:</div>Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.</div>When you know what you're talking about, then get back to me. He did wonders for New York against all forms of crime, so much at one point New York City was labeled the country's safest Major City. He was responsible for all kinds of construction projects giving the City all kinds of jobs, and rebuilding alot of areas that were otherwise slums. Not to mention he did a terrific job leading New York to rebuilding Post 9-11. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>An Obama-Edwards ticket would be unstoppable in an election. And a good governoring pairing as well. Obama brings the midwest, Edwards brings the south. The Republicans would have to win all three California, Texas, and Florida in order to stop the Democrats from winning.</div>I don't think it would be. They might stand a chance, but you're talking about 2 Democrats from a Highly Republican area. I'm not even convinced they would win their own states, nevermind the election itself. Meanwhile, coming from a New Yorker, not only would Giuliani win New York which is a traditionally Democratic State. It would be by a landslide.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85488' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:18 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='85483' date='Feb 22 2007, 02:34 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85480' date='Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM']Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:[/quote]Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.[/quote]When you know what you're talking about, then get back to me. He did wonders for New York against all forms of crime, so much at one point New York City was labeled the country's safest Major City. He was responsible for all kinds of construction projects giving the City all kinds of jobs, and rebuilding alot of areas that were otherwise slums. Not to mention he did a terrific job leading New York to rebuilding Post 9-11. I don't think it would be. They might stand a chance, but you're talking about 2 Democrats from a Highly Republican area. I'm not even convinced they would win their own states, nevermind the election itself. Meanwhile, coming from a New Yorker, not only would Giuliani win New York which is a traditionally Democratic State. It would be by a landslide.[/quote]Getting NY is fine, but Obama delivers Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio. Edwards delivers every southern swing state.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='85492' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:38 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85488' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:18 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='85483' date='Feb 22 2007, 02:34 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85480' date='Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM']Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:[/quote]Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.[/quote]When you know what you're talking about, then get back to me. He did wonders for New York against all forms of crime, so much at one point New York City was labeled the country's safest Major City. He was responsible for all kinds of construction projects giving the City all kinds of jobs, and rebuilding alot of areas that were otherwise slums. Not to mention he did a terrific job leading New York to rebuilding Post 9-11. I don't think it would be. They might stand a chance, but you're talking about 2 Democrats from a Highly Republican area. I'm not even convinced they would win their own states, nevermind the election itself. Meanwhile, coming from a New Yorker, not only would Giuliani win New York which is a traditionally Democratic State. It would be by a landslide.[/quote]Getting NY is fine, but Obama delivers Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio. Edwards delivers every southern swing state.[/quote]You mean like how he delivered it 4 years ago?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Feb 22 2007, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>FDR had the New Deal that set up the growing economy of America for the next half century... :whistling:</div>The New Deal did nothing for the country. FDR made it appear like he was doing something by making ths "New Deal," but in reality, it did absolutely nothing. He tried to set up a bunch of recovery, relief, and reform programs, many of which failed. His Tennessee Valley Authority was declared unconstitutional. He encouraged farmers to burn crops, the damn food source for America, so that they could raise the prices. Yes, that's really helping the rest of the country. The AAA was also declared unconstitutional. The relief programs such as the CCC, CWA, FERA, NYA, and WPA were all terminated by 1942-1943. The WPA increased only 3.3 million employments among the country, and then fell completely. World War 2 is what saved the American economy and people to provide jobs and work for all races and genders.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 22 2007, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When you know what you're talking about, then get back to me. He did wonders for New York against all forms of crime, so much at one point New York City was labeled the country's safest Major City. He was responsible for all kinds of construction projects giving the City all kinds of jobs, and rebuilding alot of areas that were otherwise slums. Not to mention he did a terrific job leading New York to rebuilding Post 9-11.</div>He did nothing to rebuild the 9-11 attacks. He simply took advantage of a time to make some money and earn some respect. All he did was make things appear better than what they were, he went to all sorts of meetings that he set up, interviews, and other of such. This made him become very respectful because he talked about it. At this time, everyone in the country, especially NYC became gullible and believed everything that he would say, because in reality Pataki was doing more. Pataki set up the idea to have the LMDC to distribute over $10 billion in federal grants and that he would oversee the memorial that was being planned for at the WTC grounds. Pataki had almost all authority of this because Guliani was limited by term conditions and the Port Authority made it very difficult to even give Guliani any control at all in this process.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85494' date='Feb 22 2007, 04:11 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='85492' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:38 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85488' date='Feb 22 2007, 03:18 PM'][quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='85483' date='Feb 22 2007, 02:34 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='85480' date='Feb 22 2007, 05:25 PM']Either way, I'm rooting for Rudy Giuliani to be the next President though. :thumbsup:[/quote]Why? He did nothing for NY when he was in office. What makes you think he will be a good president if he can't do anything for the single city of New York, let alone the rest of the state? As far as I see it, he's the next FDR. Do nothing, but look like you're doing something.[/quote]When you know what you're talking about, then get back to me. He did wonders for New York against all forms of crime, so much at one point New York City was labeled the country's safest Major City. He was responsible for all kinds of construction projects giving the City all kinds of jobs, and rebuilding alot of areas that were otherwise slums. Not to mention he did a terrific job leading New York to rebuilding Post 9-11. I don't think it would be. They might stand a chance, but you're talking about 2 Democrats from a Highly Republican area. I'm not even convinced they would win their own states, nevermind the election itself. Meanwhile, coming from a New Yorker, not only would Giuliani win New York which is a traditionally Democratic State. It would be by a landslide.[/quote]Getting NY is fine, but Obama delivers Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio. Edwards delivers every southern swing state.[/quote]You mean like how he delivered it 4 years ago?[/quote]He was teamed with way too liberal Kerry last year, and a lot of those southern states weren't won comfortably.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Feb 26 2007, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't his middle name 'Hussein'? No joke, heard it on FOX the other day.</div>So?
