Link - http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/SF/10070361Hope they didn't overpay for a special teamer. :whistling:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like they overpaid for Lelie and Banta-Cain right, Venom? </div>I haven't seen the contract details for either of them to comment on that, but Clements and Lewis definately were.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 20 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like they overpaid for Lelie and Banta-Cain right, Venom? </div>I haven't seen the contract details for either of them to comment on that, but Clements and Lewis definately were.</div>Ashley Lelie got $4.3 million for 2 years why Banta-Cain got $9 million for 3 years. Not bad
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 20 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like they overpaid for Lelie and Banta-Cain right, Venom? </div>I haven't seen the contract details for either of them to comment on that, but Clements and Lewis definately were.</div>Ashley Lelie got $4.3 million for 2 years why Banta-Cain got $9 million for 3 years. Not bad </div>Lelie isn't terrible based on the risk/reward involved. If he somehow revives his DEN form he'd be a steal, if not no biggie.Canta-Play, well, a bit expensive for a backup. I'd think he would have gotten a deal closer to the numbers Lelie got.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='87507' date='Mar 20 2007, 06:42 PM'][quote name='david81' post='87505' date='Mar 20 2007, 05:36 PM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='87490' date='Mar 20 2007, 05:49 PM'][quote name='david81' post='87453' date='Mar 20 2007, 01:03 PM']Like they overpaid for Lelie and Banta-Cain right, Venom? [/quote]I haven't seen the contract details for either of them to comment on that, but Clements and Lewis definately were.[/quote]Ashley Lelie got $4.3 million for 2 years why Banta-Cain got $9 million for 3 years. Not bad [/quote]Lelie isn't terrible based on the risk/reward involved. If he somehow revives his DEN form he'd be a steal, if not no biggie.Canta-Play, well, a bit expensive for a backup. I'd think he would have gotten a deal closer to the numbers Lelie got.[/quote]Yeah I THINK, if Lelie performs very well his contract could be up to $6 million from incentitives. On Banta "I think I killed Pennington" Cain will probably get alot of playin time and has a good chance to start with our mediocre LB corps (Only due to Derek Smith and sometimes Ulbrich).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On Banta "I think I killed Pennington" Cain will probably get alot of playin time and has a good chance to start with our mediocre LB corps (Only due to Derek Smith and sometimes Ulbrich).</div>He had about 3 good games all year, and the only reason they were considered 'good' was because of multiple sacks, but he got benched in the playoffs because he was such a liability against the run in favor of Eric Alexander (Who?).He should just be a situational pass-rusher and that's it, he has no buisness starting.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 20 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On Banta "I think I killed Pennington" Cain will probably get alot of playin time and has a good chance to start with our mediocre LB corps (Only due to Derek Smith and sometimes Ulbrich).</div>He had about 3 good games all year, and the only reason they were considered 'good' was because of multiple sacks, but he got benched in the playoffs because he was such a liability against the run in favor of Eric Alexander (Who?).He should just be a situational pass-rusher and that's it, he has no buisness starting.</div>He's a pass-rusher and Nolan knows that. That is why this offseason they're gonna work him hard to improve his run-defense and once they do he's gonna be worth more than $3 million a year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's a pass-rusher and Nolan knows that. That is why this offseason they're gonna work him hard to improve his run-defense and once they do he's gonna be worth more than $3 million a year.</div>You don't think the Patriots worked Banta-Cain hard to improve his Run Defense? What difference will Mike Nolan make that Bill Belicheck already didn't, keep in mind this guy is tapping out on the potential meter already for being a 7th Round Pick. Not to mention teams should be spending on what a player has done, and not what a player will be. Because when spending money on potential that may or may not pan out more often then not backfires. See Justin McCareins.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 20 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 20 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's a pass-rusher and Nolan knows that. That is why this offseason they're gonna work him hard to improve his run-defense and once they do he's gonna be worth more than $3 million a year.</div>You don't think the Patriots worked Banta-Cain hard to improve his Run Defense? What difference will Mike Nolan make that Bill Belicheck already didn't, keep in mind this guy is tapping out on the potential meter already for being a 7th Round Pick. Not to mention teams should be spending on what a player has done, and not what a player will be. Because when spending money on potential that may or may not pan out more often then not backfires. See Justin McCareins.</div>Forget what round he was drafted in, with so many GREAT players who were drafted very late it doesnt really matter. Im guessin Bill didnt since Tully is horrible at it (Although I've never seen him play). The 49ers should shell out contracts in which way they please, it's worked well for them so far. Pretty sure Nolan really expects Banta-Cain to push hard for the startin spot for strong-side OLB.
