<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Gore reaches extension agreement with 49ers through 2011By Len PasquarelliESPN.comWhen the San Francisco 49ers selected tailback Frank Gore in the second round of the 2005 draft, the former University of Miami star proved to be one of the biggest steals in the last several seasons. On Tuesday evening, the 49ers opened up their coffers to Gore, the NFC rushing leader in 2006.ESPN.com has learned that the 49ers reached agreement with Gore on a four-year contract extension through 2011, with the deal averaging just shy of $7 million in terms of so-called "new money."Gore will receive an initial signing bonus of $6.5 million and total guarantees of nearly $14 million. The contract will pay Gore $13.862 million in its first two seasons, and $18.212 million in the first three years. Because Gore had one season remaining on his original rookie contract, the four-year extension creates a five-year deal, and the total value over the course of the five seasons is $28.012 million.Base salaries are $450,000 (for 2007), $2.5 million (2008), $2.5 million (2009), $2.85 million (2010) and $2.9 million (2011). The contract includes a $4.165 million option bonuses and roster bonuses of $1.75 million (2009), $1.85 million (2010) and $2 million (2011). Gore's full base salary of $2.5 million in 2009 is guaranteed.San Francisco officials acknowledged at the end of the 2006 season that, in keeping with their recent initiative to secure their nucleus players for the long-term, they hoped to sign Gore to an extension. Through negotiations with agent Drew Rosenhaus, this deal continues a string of big-money contracts for tailbacks that have been ongoing, and were ratcheted up in recent days.The deal is unusual in that it comes after Gore has logged only two seasons in the NFL, and after he overcame severe knee and shoulder injuries to emerge as one of the league's premier runners.Gore, 23, played as the backup to Kevan Barlow as a rookie in 2005, then won the starting job in training camp last summer. Starting in all 16 games, he carried 312 times for 1,695 yards and eight touchdowns. In two seasons, he has 2,303 yards and 11 scores on 439 carries, appearing in 30 games, with 17 starts.Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com.</div>Dumbass, Gore was a 3rd rounder... But this deal makes me very happy
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 27 2007, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Best RB in the NFC.</div>You wish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 27 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Any chance the Niners take Michael Bush so we can have another Bush-Gore battle? </div>It'd be more fitting if someone like the Seahawks did, as then you could have Bush vs. Gore instead of Bush and Gore Running Togeather
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 27 2007, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>4th Best RB in the NFC West.</div>That's better.
Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.</div>He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.</div>He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.</div>And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.</div>He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.</div>And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:</div>Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.
Jeez, looks like Vilma cleaned this up for me. I didn't even have to do anything (but he essentially said what I would have said.. though I'd take Gore over Alexander and Edge (in AZ, not in Indy though))
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's.
[quote name='david81' post='88280' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's. [/quote] Pathetic.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88281' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:08 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88280' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's. [/quote] Pathetic.[/quote] Owned.
[quote name='david81' post='88282' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:10 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88281' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:08 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88280' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's. [/quote] Pathetic.[/quote] Owned.[/quote] Riigghhhtt.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88283' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:17 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88282' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:10 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88281' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:08 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88280' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's. [/quote] Pathetic.[/quote] Owned.[/quote] Riigghhhtt.[/quote]Ok then I'll just wait for your repsonse JV. Gonna be hard since you already got caught up about not knowin shit about Gore at Miami, but claimin you did. But I guess you just love RBs that have an average of 3-4 yards per carry over one that has an average of well over 5 yards per carry with more yards overall as well :whistling:
Vilma, you must not ever check your PMs (It has nothing to do with this topic). CHECK THEM!Anyways.. Jackson>Gore (I'm a fan of Gore too).
[quote name='david81' post='88284' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:21 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88283' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:17 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88282' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:10 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88281' date='Mar 28 2007, 05:08 PM'][quote name='david81' post='88280' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:27 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88258' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:24 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88245' date='Mar 28 2007, 04:15 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='88244' date='Mar 28 2007, 03:14 AM'][quote name='david81' post='88243' date='Mar 27 2007, 11:52 PM']Haters. Look at the damn statistics...5.4 YPC on almost 1700 rushin yards, thats really fuckin AMAZIN... (Last time someone did better was Clinton Portis in 2003 with 5.5 YPC on almost 1600 rushin yards). Gore led the league with most +20 yard runs. JV - James: Not nearly as good as Gore without Indy's O-line and all their other weapons.Alexander: Past his prime, will never be the same without Hutchinson, and will not be as good as Gore again.Jackson: Best debate but Gore is a much better pure runner. Gore 5.4 YPC with 1695 rushin yards, Jackson 4.4 YPC with 1528 rushin yards.[/quote]He may be a 1 year wonder. Do it twice, maybe number 2 in the NFC West. It'll take a LOT to get him past Steven Jackson though.For you to claim he's better than Jackson is homerism. Plain and Simple. Alexander was injured last year and was still badass. So we'll see, but I still have him about Frank Gore.The Colts' line is overrated, but the Cardinals' line is abismal. Give Edge decent blockers (yes, even San Frans' O-line is better) and he's a better RB. Right now, the 3/4 spots are a toss up with Edge and Gore. I'll take Edge, all things being equal.[/quote]And you're just a hater.Seriously JV, what has Jackson done in his career to warrant him better than Gore? Look at the stats buddy, Gore > Jackson. And while you're at it check Alexander's "badass season" Alexander may have been injured but he started and played in 10 whole games, most which he was healthy in and he had a "badass" 3.6 YPC with 2 "badass" +20 yard runs.The Colts' line is one of the best in the league, and the Cards' is one of the worst. But his 3.4 YPC and 0 +20 yard runs didnt help his case either (He played in every game). Thats just horrible.You probably never knew about Gore when he played at Miami. No one who did was surprised by his play last season, if it wasnt for his injuries there he woulda been the first RB taken in the 05 Draft. He's just an amazin pure natural runner who is one of the league's best at the age of 23, sooner or later you'll have to admit it.Gore :beerbang2:[/quote]Yeah. Look at the Stats. All Jackson did was have more offensive yards and more TD's than Gore.... how could Gore not be better?! Homer.As for Alexander In essentially 9 games (10 literal, but take away the injury half or the game he left early and game he came back late in) he had 99.5 YPG. Expanded over 16 games Alexander had 1593 Yards and 12 TD's. And that's a badass season.I knew about Gore at Miami. I knew he was so good he couldn't beat out Willis for the Job... Willis, the guy who chased Clinton Portis into the Pros early... Don't assume, because it doesn't make an ass out of me, just you.[/quote]Offensive yards, thats great. How about the RUSHING YARDS? And the YARDS PER CARRY? He's a Running Back, a better one than Jackson. I guess Jackson was a better receiver than Gore last season, although he did have more passes thrown his way and had Holt, Bruce, and Curtis around him. Alexander could've had 1593 yards but still, not even 4 yards a carry is pretty bad. You didnt know shit about Gore about Miami judgin from that statement. He was supposed to be a legend. He did beat out Willis for the job, dumbass. But Gore was out for the season very early and the job was Willis'. Willis didnt come back cuz he knew the job woulda been Gore's. [/quote] Pathetic.[/quote] Owned.[/quote] Riigghhhtt.[/quote]Ok then I'll just wait for your repsonse JV. Gonna be hard since you already got caught up about not knowin shit about Gore at Miami, but claimin you did. But I guess you just love RBs that have an average of 3-4 yards per carry over one that has an average of well over 5 yards per carry with more yards overall as well :whistling:[/quote]I got proven wrong?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Mar 28 2007, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vilma, you must not ever check your PMs (It has nothing to do with this topic). CHECK THEM!Anyways.. Jackson>Gore (I'm a fan of Gore too).</div>No not really.And yup, Jackson > Gore
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 28 2007, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I got proven wrong?</div>Did you not read my post? You said Gore couldnt even beat out Willis for the startin job when in truth Willis never won the startin RB job over Gore. Gore was the starter since Sophomore year after Portis left and then he got injured and was out for the season, that year McGahee had a great year and went into the Draft with a messed up leg just cuz he knew Gore would be the starter if he came back for his senior year.