[quote name='MLibid' post='89178' date='Apr 8 2007, 01:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89118' date='Apr 8 2007, 12:40 AM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89103' date='Apr 7 2007, 04:16 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89057' date='Apr 7 2007, 02:23 AM']Devin Hester ran a 4.41 at the Combine last year. Jerome Mathis ran a 4.28 at the Combine the year before. Who should be the 100 in speed?[/quote]Vick ran a 4.25 / 4.23DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT.[/quote]Vick didn't run in the Combine nor at his Pro Day.DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.37 at the NFL Combine.NFL Draft Scout is handy. :thumbsup:[/quote]I didn't say Vick ran specifically anywhere. I said he ran a 4.25 at his 40.And I also said that DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT. [/quote]Yeah, but neither did it when it was objectively timed. I once ran a 4.4 in high school. My friend timed it. Honest. I ran it!
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89181' date='Apr 8 2007, 04:38 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89178' date='Apr 8 2007, 01:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89118' date='Apr 8 2007, 12:40 AM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89103' date='Apr 7 2007, 04:16 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89057' date='Apr 7 2007, 02:23 AM']Devin Hester ran a 4.41 at the Combine last year. Jerome Mathis ran a 4.28 at the Combine the year before. Who should be the 100 in speed?[/quote]Vick ran a 4.25 / 4.23DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT.[/quote]Vick didn't run in the Combine nor at his Pro Day.DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.37 at the NFL Combine.NFL Draft Scout is handy. :thumbsup:[/quote]I didn't say Vick ran specifically anywhere. I said he ran a 4.25 at his 40.And I also said that DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT. [/quote]Yeah, but neither did it when it was objectively timed. I once ran a 4.4 in high school. My friend timed it. Honest. I ran it![/quote]Neither did what?
[quote name='MLibid' post='89190' date='Apr 8 2007, 03:19 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89181' date='Apr 8 2007, 04:38 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89178' date='Apr 8 2007, 01:29 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89118' date='Apr 8 2007, 12:40 AM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89103' date='Apr 7 2007, 04:16 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89057' date='Apr 7 2007, 02:23 AM']Devin Hester ran a 4.41 at the Combine last year. Jerome Mathis ran a 4.28 at the Combine the year before. Who should be the 100 in speed?[/quote]Vick ran a 4.25 / 4.23DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT.[/quote]Vick didn't run in the Combine nor at his Pro Day.DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.37 at the NFL Combine.NFL Draft Scout is handy. :thumbsup:[/quote]I didn't say Vick ran specifically anywhere. I said he ran a 4.25 at his 40.And I also said that DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 at VT. [/quote]Yeah, but neither did it when it was objectively timed. I once ran a 4.4 in high school. My friend timed it. Honest. I ran it![/quote]Neither did what?[/quote]Ran faster than Jerome Mathis.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 8 2007, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh......I guess not at the combine.</div>Or at their Pro Days.... or anywhere objective.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Apr 8 2007, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Allen Rossum claims he ran a 3.9 </div>That's not even fast.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89195' date='Apr 8 2007, 07:29 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='89192' date='Apr 8 2007, 04:23 PM']Oh......I guess not at the combine.[/quote]Or at their Pro Days.... or anywhere objective.[/quote]DeAngelo Hall, I said, ran a 4.17 at his VT Pro Day. :whistling:[quote name='Brooksie5' post='89204' date='Apr 8 2007, 09:11 PM'][quote name='The Punisher' post='89185' date='Apr 8 2007, 03:53 PM']Allen Rossum claims he ran a 3.9 [/quote]That's not even fast.[/quote] :drool:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 9 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 8 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 8 2007, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh......I guess not at the combine.</div>Or at their Pro Days.... or anywhere objective.</div>DeAngelo Hall, I said, ran a 4.17 at his VT Pro Day. :whistling:</div>No he didn't.
D-Hall actually ran a 4.17 in VT. I heard about that too.I don't know about Vick though, but I'm sure he ran below 4.5
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Apr 13 2007, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D-Hall actually ran a 4.17 in VT. I heard about that too.</div>Not at his Pro Day.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89582' date='Apr 13 2007, 04:09 PM'][quote name='The Punisher' post='89570' date='Apr 13 2007, 05:47 AM']D-Hall actually ran a 4.17 in VT. I heard about that too.[/quote]Not at his Pro Day.[/quote]I believe he did. But Pro Day or not, are you denying the fact that 4.17 is fast? The only thing that matters is this. DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 whether it was in his pro day, his backyard, in your mom's bedroom, wherever... Just to let you know....that's fast....and a lot faster than Devin Hester. [quote name='The Punisher' post='89570' date='Apr 13 2007, 08:47 AM']D-Hall actually ran a 4.17 in VT. I heard about that too.I don't know about Vick though, but I'm sure he ran below 4.5[/quote]Vick officially ran a 4.25. I believe he ran a 4.23 somewhere before, but I can't really confirm that, so I won't. I know that when he was coming to the NFL, his OFFICIAL time was 4.25. He even had it on his shoes I think, and he said that his shoes bore the number 4.25 because of his timed 40.[quote name='Capt. Comeback' post='89551' date='Apr 12 2007, 09:05 PM']lol... Falcons fans don't give up on how fast Hall or Vick are.[/quote]Well, DeAngelo Hall did win the fastest player award two years ago. (And Allen Rossum the year before that)And Michael Vick did break the single season rushing yards for a Quarterback....
[quote name='MLibid' post='90034' date='Apr 19 2007, 04:09 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='89582' date='Apr 13 2007, 04:09 PM'][quote name='The Punisher' post='89570' date='Apr 13 2007, 05:47 AM']D-Hall actually ran a 4.17 in VT. I heard about that too.[/quote]Not at his Pro Day.[/quote]I believe he did. But Pro Day or not, are you denying the fact that 4.17 is fast? The only thing that matters is this. DeAngelo Hall ran a 4.17 whether it was in his pro day, his backyard, in your mom's bedroom, wherever... Just to let you know....that's fast....and a lot faster than Devin Hester. [/quote]A lot of people believe in Aliens, doesn't make them real. And it matters that he didn't do it objectively. Vick officially ran a 4.25. I believe he ran a 4.23 somewhere before, but I can't really confirm that, so I won't. I know that when he was coming to the NFL, his OFFICIAL time was 4.25. He even had it on his shoes I think, and he said that his shoes bore the number 4.25 because of his timed 40.[/quote]Vick didn't officially run anything. Because he didn't officially run. Not at his Pro Day. Not at the Combine. He never ran it officially. So his OFFICIAL time doesn't exist. :thumbsup: Well, DeAngelo Hall did win the fastest player award two years ago. (And Allen Rossum the year before that)And Michael Vick did break the single season rushing yards for a Quarterback.... [/quote]Justin Miller did win the fastest player award this past year.And Vick is the fastest QB, and the best rushing QB. No one is saying he's not.
LOL. Comparing aliens to this??? Alien are a controversy. Whether DLo ran a certain time in the 40 isn't. They're two completely different things. And wait.... why does it matter where the players ran again? Do NFL Combines and Pro Days use a certain type of turf or track floor that determines exactly how fast a player is??? I don't get the big deal...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 19 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And wait.... why does it matter where the players ran again? Do NFL Combines and Pro Days use a certain type of turf or track floor that determines exactly how fast a player is???</div>The NFL Combine is the only one that is really regarded as an accurate gague of a players speed.A) Times at the NFL Combine are electronically timed, so the times are 100% Accurate. Unlike at Workouts and Pro-Days where they are normally hand-timed by a trigger-happy Assistant Coach with a Stopwatch who normally presses the stopwatch about .08-.10 Seconds early. At least that's how the actual scouts adjust hand-timed results. Some schools use Faster Tracks at their Pro Days / College Workouts which produce better 40 times then Other schools.C) There are unbiased members of the media and professional scouts at Combines / Pro-Days that can verify that the times are actually ran and recorded accurately. Many rediculous '40 times' like the 4.17 number you keep mentioning for DeAngelo Hall come out during spring workouts as a form of propaganda to hype up fans for the Upcoming Season. If said time is even accurate, they surely don't mention that they are ran on the Fast Track and is Hand Timed and after Scouts adjust the 40 times for the conditions, it would come out at best as a 4.30.D) Almost all players run at the NFL Combine under the exact same conditions, so you can accurately compare numbers between 2 players as they were ran under the exact same conditions.
The gayest part about the 40 is that you gotta time the start. Your time should start when you the electronic thing first senses you move.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 19 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 19 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And wait.... why does it matter where the players ran again? Do NFL Combines and Pro Days use a certain type of turf or track floor that determines exactly how fast a player is???</div>The NFL Combine is the only one that is really regarded as an accurate gague of a players speed.A) Times at the NFL Combine are electronically timed, so the times are 100% Accurate. Unlike at Workouts and Pro-Days where they are normally hand-timed by a trigger-happy Assistant Coach with a Stopwatch who normally presses the stopwatch about .08-.10 Seconds early. At least that's how the actual scouts adjust hand-timed results. Some schools use Faster Tracks at their Pro Days / College Workouts which produce better 40 times then Other schools.C) There are unbiased members of the media and professional scouts at Combines / Pro-Days that can verify that the times are actually ran and recorded accurately. Many rediculous '40 times' like the 4.17 number you keep mentioning for DeAngelo Hall come out during spring workouts as a form of propaganda to hype up fans for the Upcoming Season. If said time is even accurate, they surely don't mention that they are ran on the Fast Track and is Hand Timed and after Scouts adjust the 40 times for the conditions, it would come out at best as a 4.30.D) Almost all players run at the NFL Combine under the exact same conditions, so you can accurately compare numbers between 2 players as they were ran under the exact same conditions.</div> :yeahthat:
