<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Apr 19 2007, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/18/...in2699800.shtmlRemember all those people who protested at the funerals for the American Soldiers who died in Iraq? Yeah they're protesting at the funerals for the victims here too.Those people are horrible excuses for human beings. Reading the article they contradict themselves.</div>"All those people" is a bit of a stretch, in a country this size you'll have crazy people wanting their crazy voices to be heard, but it's not even thousands, in fact I doubt if it's even hundreds.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.</div>When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:</div>That's... not 32 people being killed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 19 2007, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.</div>When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:</div>That's... not 32 people being killed.</div>Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 57.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90082' date='Apr 19 2007, 10:19 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90078' date='Apr 19 2007, 06:34 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90064' date='Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90041' date='Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM']What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.[/quote]When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:[/quote]That's... not 32 people being killed.[/quote]Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 57.[/quote]No way 57 people get killed in one shooting every day. And 12 is a reach itself. One person killing himself doesn't count as 32 people. So it's right for us to make this a big deal. :whistling:
[quote name='MLibid' post='90117' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:49 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90082' date='Apr 19 2007, 10:19 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90078' date='Apr 19 2007, 06:34 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90064' date='Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90041' date='Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM']What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.[/quote]When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:[/quote]That's... not 32 people being killed.[/quote]Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 57.[/quote]No way 57 people get killed in one shooting every day. And 12 is a reach itself. One person killing himself doesn't count as 32 people. So it's right for us to make this a big deal. :whistling:[/quote]Yeah, it's safe to walk the streets of Baghdad. :thumbsup:
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90120' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:49 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90117' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:49 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90082' date='Apr 19 2007, 10:19 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90078' date='Apr 19 2007, 06:34 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90064' date='Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90041' date='Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM']What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.[/quote]When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:[/quote]That's... not 32 people being killed.[/quote]Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 57.[/quote]No way 57 people get killed in one shooting every day. And 12 is a reach itself. One person killing himself doesn't count as 32 people. So it's right for us to make this a big deal. :whistling:[/quote]Yeah, it's safe to walk the streets of Baghdad. :thumbsup:[/quote]But I already said that a war-tainted country is an exception.And I already mentioned that and you said, "It's not clashes between soliders I'm talking about :thumbsup:".
And even in Baghdad, when a bombing kills 15 people or soldiers, it's all over the news. Let alone 32 from a shooting inside our country.It's sure not a big deal.......
[quote name='MLibid' post='90122' date='Apr 20 2007, 11:52 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90120' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:49 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90117' date='Apr 20 2007, 10:49 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90082' date='Apr 19 2007, 10:19 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90078' date='Apr 19 2007, 06:34 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='90064' date='Apr 19 2007, 08:35 PM'][quote name='MLibid' post='90041' date='Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM']What are you talking about then? Give me some SPECIFIC examples of what you're talking about.[/quote]When a guy blows himself at a temple, he's not fighting with soliders, nor is he a solider himself. :thumbsup:[/quote]That's... not 32 people being killed.[/quote]Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 57.[/quote]No way 57 people get killed in one shooting every day. And 12 is a reach itself. One person killing himself doesn't count as 32 people. So it's right for us to make this a big deal. :whistling:[/quote]Yeah, it's safe to walk the streets of Baghdad. :thumbsup:[/quote]But I already said that a war-tainted country is an exception.And I already mentioned that and you said, "It's not clashes between soliders I'm talking about :thumbsup:".[/quote]It's not, and soliders are not the reason it's not safe to walk the streets.
Bagdhad is still war-tainted. It means that the country has experienced too many bloodshed on its soil. Thus the term "war-tainted".
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 20 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bagdhad is still war-tainted. It means that the country has experienced too many bloodshed on its soil. Thus the term "war-tainted".</div>And this some how lessens the tragic nature of civilians killing each other en masse?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 20 2007, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 20 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bagdhad is still war-tainted. It means that the country has experienced too many bloodshed on its soil. Thus the term "war-tainted".</div>And this some how lessens the tragic nature of civilians killing each other en masse?</div>It doesn't. I'm just saying that we do have the right to make this a big deal, because you said that you didn't know why Americans were making a big deal out of this massacre.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 20 2007, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 20 2007, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 20 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bagdhad is still war-tainted. It means that the country has experienced too many bloodshed on its soil. Thus the term "war-tainted".</div>And this some how lessens the tragic nature of civilians killing each other en masse?</div>It doesn't. I'm just saying that we do have the right to make this a big deal, because you said that you didn't know why Americans were making a big deal out of this massacre.</div>That's actually not what I was saying. Nice twist though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Apr 20 2007, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was talking about civilians being killed by other citizens in Baghdad, not soldiers.</div>BTW, I pulled the numbers. For violent non-military involved deaths last year in Iraq, the total was 22,095. That's 60.5 per day of civilian on civilian deaths. In an area roughly the size (and less the population) of California.
You said you didn't know why we were making a big deal out of this.I probably misunderstood you...I was just defending my case that Americans have the right to make a big deal out of this due to the action being done WITHIN the country's walls instead of outside of it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Apr 21 2007, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You said you didn't know why we were making a big deal out of this.I probably misunderstood you...I was just defending my case that Americans have the right to make a big deal out of this due to the action being done WITHIN the country's walls instead of outside of it.</div>Quote me.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 19 2007, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People don't realize how lucky Americans are. Things like this, 32 civilians killed, happen at schools, coffee shops, homes, markets, and office buildings on a day to day basis. Imagine a shooting like Va. Tech happening every day, not in the entire country, but in a 2 state area and you'll reach what the civilians or Iraq are going through. You're talking about this happening every day in a state the size of Florida. For this to be such a big deal, we are lucky.</div>
