Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' United Football League will possibly never see the light of day. Why because they are putting it up on Friday nights and you now thats high school football time.The people behind it may have deep pockets but they would not want to waist 10 million or more each to keep this league alive. They are good business men/women because they know how to spend money the right way.This has been tried before and they even had a network behind them.XFL was owned by NBC and the WWE organization. (Closed down for lack of interest)USFL (UnknownWFL (Bankrupt)AFL (Merged with the NFL)You will not be able to create a league that will even put a dent into the NFL. They are like Microsoft of football. The Arena league tried and failed. If you are a fan of the Chargers you may also follow the Avengers in the NFL off season. It will cost to much money to give the NFL a run for its money and to be honest there is not enough good players in the US to support two players. Look at the QB position the NFL does not even have enough talented QB's. How in hell do you think they will do if they have to compete with another league? The NFL will always win and the UFL will also have a salary cap. So that is not even open to disussion at this time.The UFL has money and Mark will probably put the games on his HDNet. Thats it and I highly doubt that the UFL will survive but it they do who will own UFLCentral.net?But like someone said why not spend some time with the guys over at NFL Europe? NFLE would also be better if they did not have to remove players from NFL teams.New teamsVikings of Norway be a new team to join NFL EuropeBring back a team in SpainSwedenDanmarkFinlandOld TeamsFrankfurtHamburgCologneRhein AmsterdamBerlinThen have them play against eachother and whoever wins the NFL Europe Championship would play the American NFL team for some big World Bowl game or something like that. Plus China, Russia and Japan would have some great people that could play.
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jeremy Meyer @ Jun 4 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>United Football League will possibly never see the light of day. Why because they are putting it up on Friday nights and you now thats high school football time.The people behind it may have deep pockets but they would not want to waist 10 million or more each to keep this league alive. They are good business men/women because they know how to spend money the right way.This has been tried before and they even had a network behind them.XFL was owned by NBC and the WWE organization. (Closed down for lack of interest)USFL (UnknownWFL (Bankrupt)AFL (Merged with the NFL)You will not be able to create a league that will even put a dent into the NFL. They are like Microsoft of football. The Arena league tried and failed. If you are a fan of the Chargers you may also follow the Avengers in the NFL off season. It will cost to much money to give the NFL a run for its money and to be honest there is not enough good players in the US to support two players. Look at the QB position the NFL does not even have enough talented QB's. How in hell do you think they will do if they have to compete with another league? The NFL will always win and the UFL will also have a salary cap. So that is not even open to disussion at this time.The UFL has money and Mark will probably put the games on his HDNet. Thats it and I highly doubt that the UFL will survive but it they do who will own UFLCentral.net?But like someone said why not spend some time with the guys over at NFL Europe? NFLE would also be better if they did not have to remove players from NFL teams.New teamsVikings of Norway be a new team to join NFL EuropeBring back a team in SpainSwedenDanmarkFinlandOld TeamsFrankfurtHamburgCologneRhein AmsterdamBerlinThen have them play against eachother and whoever wins the NFL Europe Championship would play the American NFL team for some big World Bowl game or something like that. Plus China, Russia and Japan would have some great people that could play.</div>The problem with NFL Europe is that nobody outside of Germany really cares enough about NFL-Style Football to give it a chance as a Full-Time League. It was a decent idea to try and turn the NFL into a Worldwide game, but they don't have the interest in going out there and supporting a Watered-Down Product like NFL Europe. They might have interest in going out there and Supporting a Real NFL Regular Season Game for one Game a year like it has been proposed, but not a standalone league, especially not a Watered Down one.NFL Europe is a league owned by the NFL for NFL Teams to send their contenders for the 53rd man on the roster in order to sharpen up their skills, and a bunch of former NCAA players who went undrafted desperate to try and get noticed by the NFL fill out the rosters. Their 'NFL Europe Stars' over there are longshots to even make an NFL Roster and it is exposed every single year when most of them end up getting cut by their respective teams every August so that kinda takes a huge chunk out of it's credibility. They're simply not in the league with American Football because Europe doesn't put much of an effort into developing NFL Style Football Players and are more into Soccer, and the 'World Bowl' idea would be terrible because of it the NFL would wipe the floor with the NFL Europe champions, or any other country for that matter because they do not use their resources into producing NFL-style Football Players. It's the same reason that they don't have Football at the Olympics, because it is an American Game and they would wipe the floor with everybody because other countries do not use resources into putting up a competitive team. As for the other leagues that tried and failed, they all had major flaws to them. - XFL and AFL (Arena League) attempted to change the style of play that NFL Fans know and fell in love with. While it appeals to a certain portion of fans, the majority of people got turned off by messing with a game that is already great. The XFL also suffered because they did not have a preseason, so their first few games were so sloppy that it was almost unwatchable, and while the quality of play significantly increased over the Second Half of the Season, they had already lost 75% of NFL Fans.- CFL and NFL Europe have little to no appeal to the American Fans as they are leagues that play in another country, so it's hard to become a true fan of those teams.- The USFL actually stole Top-Level NFL Prospects away with Big Money Contracts (For the time) and was very successful in it's inaugural season as a Spring League, but then they decided to try and move to the Fall and compete head-to-head against the NFL and ratings and attendence thereby plummeted. As a starter league, they should have known they had no chance to take out the NFL on it's Second Year but they attempted it anyways. If they had waited 5 years and continued to get Top End Talent and then went to try and take out the NFL, they might have succeeded and we'd be talking on 'USFLCentral.net' right now.- And the Original AFL (Not to be confused with the Arena League) had actually succeeded. They had obtained enough top level talent that they were able to Force the First Super Bowl, and eventually merged with the NFL becoming the AFC Conference.If they take a league and run it right (Much like the USFL was in it's inaugural season, although they would probably have to settle for Mid-Tier NFL Prospects in the beginning as they probably won't be able to match the NFL's money right away). I do believe they could take a small dent out of the NFL. It's funny that you mention Microsoft, because I believe the UFL could be what Apple is becoming to Microsoft. While Apple might never overtake Microsoft, it is good enough to force competition.
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' I do agree with you regarding the USFL being the Apple Computers to the NFL. But it still will not hurt the NFL in any big way.Yeah they will take some second string players and thats it. They need first stringers to make it a real competition. Also I think some cities may be scarred off by signing a UFL team to play because it may stop them from ever actually getting a NFL team to play in the city. I think they will need to really think about this before they go ahead and create this league.They are also not taking them time to develope the idea. They want the first game to happen in 2008. They don't have the front office, no coaches, no teams, no tv, no radio. They need media to broadcast the games and they need teams to fill a league. They currently have none of the above and they want to be ready to launch in 2008??? I will eat my hat if they actually get it to happen without being to sloppy. I think to tell you the truth this will be the XFL with normal football rules.
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' All it takes is one big name prospect to go to the NFL. If Mark Cuban said he would give the #1 NFL prospect a 5 year 8 million per year guaranteed... I think the prospect would hit the UFL. And then more and more players would consider the UFL. They have quite a lot of cash to wield around. If you could attract some vets that want to start, some college players that want money, allow high school players to enter the UFL... you have a league!But in the end, I think they would end up merging anyway.
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' You may be right chang you may be right in that area. But in reality do you think Mr. Cuban or any of the other owners would take such a risk and don't some NFL players get that and more now?Also alowing High School players to come straight to the UFL hurt the league? I know the NBA allowed it before. But I think even the NBA know wants the players to atleast have one year of college.But I am still sticking to my comment about them not being able to get the league up and running by 2008. I say the first real game would not be played before 2009.But if this work, will NFLCentral create a UFLCentral or just merge the two into this site?
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jeremy Meyer @ Jun 4 2007, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You may be right chang you may be right in that area. But in reality do you think Mr. Cuban or any of the other owners would take such a risk and don't some NFL players get that and more now?Also alowing High School players to come straight to the UFL hurt the league? I know the NBA allowed it before. But I think even the NBA know wants the players to atleast have one year of college.But I am still sticking to my comment about them not being able to get the league up and running by 2008. I say the first real game would not be played before 2009.But if this work, will NFLCentral create a UFLCentral or just merge the two into this site?</div>I think Cuban and some others would take a risk. They are filthy rich. Allowing high school players to enter straight is bad for football in any league, b/c I think you need that college expierance in football, not just on the field, but in life. Not so much for basketball. The NBA changed it so Americans have to be 1 year out of high school and foreign players 19. And we'll prolly just make a new sub-forum for it if it did workout. We had an Arena football sub-forum
Re: 'New League could Rival NFL' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jeremy Meyer @ Jun 4 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I do agree with you regarding the USFL being the Apple Computers to the NFL. But it still will not hurt the NFL in any big way.</div>I think you're underestimating how much Apple Computers are growing, and how much of a pest they are to Microsoft. Mac's has gone up 30% in Sales from 2005 to 2006 and figure to have another similar level of increase from 2006 to 2007. In 10 years with that kind of level of growth, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Macintosh will have somewhere around 20% of the PC Market Share in America. Microsoft is very much aware of this which is why Windows has incorporated many features from Macintosh into their latest operating system of Vista (and in some eyes made them look like a cheap Mac Ripoff), but in the process they made improvements to their operating system they likely would not have made otherwise in order to try and stunt the growth of Macintosh. Now translating that level of success elsewheres like the comparison is, If the UFL could get around 20% of NFL Talent over the next 10 years, you would have a very watchable league, well above that of Division 1 College Football which is very popular in itself. Not to mention if you fix some of the rules that could use some modifying (Such as Celebrations, ect), at the very least they could force the NFL's hands into making some needed rule changes, although I'm sure that's not their goal.
