<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>Houston and Cleveland</div>Cleveland is severely hampered by their front office. Adding Scola gives Houston a shot, but they also have a poor front office.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'> Why are people mentioning the Hawks? Atlanta's owners won't even allow them to go over the cap, you think they'll do enough to produce a dynasty? Come on now.</p> I have to go with Portland, if it's gonna happen within the next 10 years or so. They have a potential dominant center who anchors the defensive side of things, a potential All-Star guard in Brandon Roy, great coach in Nate McMillan, LaMarcus Aldridge looks to have an excellent future ahead of him, they have some solid young guards, Webster has some potential, and they will have some cap space in a couple years to go out and bring in a big-time free agent. If it's gonna happen, my pick would be Portland.</p> EDIT: RF#1, did you just mention Ime Udoka as part of Portland's "core?" Wow, you Raptors fans overrate marginal NBA players. Delfino, Baston, now Udoka? I know Udoka did a very solid job last year when he was the only reasonable option at the 3, but come on now. </p> </div>He is their ONLY option at the 3, he has to be overrated. Out of those 3 they dont really have anyone, and he was part of the rotation last year.</div></p> Just because he was the only real option at the 3 last year doesn't mean he's part of the core. I don't know if you understand what that means if you think that. He may not even be back this season, if he was part of "the core," he'd have been re-signed by now. He may come back, but he's nowhere near a core player.</p> Also, they won't have any other option? Ever heard of Martell Webster? He really wasn't ready for big minutes last year, and he'll be weened into the lineup this year, but he's clearly in their future plans. Whether they lose Ime figgen Udoka or not, it really won't affect them. </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'> Why are people mentioning the Hawks? Atlanta's owners won't even allow them to go over the cap, you think they'll do enough to produce a dynasty? Come on now.</p> I have to go with Portland, if it's gonna happen within the next 10 years or so. They have a potential dominant center who anchors the defensive side of things, a potential All-Star guard in Brandon Roy, great coach in Nate McMillan, LaMarcus Aldridge looks to have an excellent future ahead of him, they have some solid young guards, Webster has some potential, and they will have some cap space in a couple years to go out and bring in a big-time free agent. If it's gonna happen, my pick would be Portland.</p> EDIT: RF#1, did you just mention Ime Udoka as part of Portland's "core?" Wow, you Raptors fans overrate marginal NBA players. Delfino, Baston, now Udoka? I know Udoka did a very solid job last year when he was the only reasonable option at the 3, but come on now. </p> </div>He is their ONLY option at the 3, he has to be overrated. Out of those 3 they dont really have anyone, and he was part of the rotation last year.</div></p> Just because he was the only real option at the 3 last year doesn't mean he's part of the core. I don't know if you understand what that means if you think that. He may not even be back this season, if he was part of "the core," he'd have been re-signed by now. He may come back, but he's nowhere near a core player.</p> Also, they won't have any other option? Ever heard of Martell Webster? He really wasn't ready for big minutes last year, and he'll be weened into the lineup this year, but he's clearly in their future plans. Whether they lose Ime figgen Udoka or not, it really won't affect them. </p></div>you guys forget about travis outlaw and darius miles, both small forwards?
[quote name='peg182'][quote name='CelticBalla32'][quote name='RaptorFan#1'][quote name='CelticBalla32'] Why are people mentioning the Hawks? Atlanta's owners won't even allow them to go over the cap, you think they'll do enough to produce a dynasty? Come on now.</p> I have to go with Portland, if it's gonna happen within the next 10 years or so. They have a potential dominant center who anchors the defensive side of things, a potential All-Star guard in Brandon Roy, great coach in Nate McMillan, LaMarcus Aldridge looks to have an excellent future ahead of him, they have some solid young guards, Webster has some potential, and they will have some cap space in a couple years to go out and bring in a big-time free agent. If it's gonna happen, my pick would be Portland.</p> EDIT: RF#1, did you just mention Ime Udoka as part of Portland's "core?" Wow, you Raptors fans overrate marginal NBA players. Delfino, Baston, now Udoka? I know Udoka did a very solid job last year when he was the only reasonable option at the 3, but come on now. </p> [/QUOTE]He is their ONLY option at the 3, he has to be overrated. Out of those 3 they dont really have anyone, and he was part of the rotation last year.[/QUOTE]</p> Just because he was the only real option at the 3 last year doesn't mean he's part of the core. I don't know if you understand what that means if you think that. He may not even be back this season, if he was part of "the core," he'd have been re-signed by now. He may come back, but he's nowhere near a core player.</p> Also, they won't have any other option? Ever heard of Martell Webster? He really wasn't ready for big minutes last year, and he'll be weened into the lineup this year, but he's clearly in their future plans. Whether they lose Ime figgen Udoka or not, it really won't affect them. </p> [/QUOTE]you guys forget about travis outlaw and darius miles, both small forwards? [/QUOTE]</p> Outlaw could possibly be part of "the core," but he's a career backup. Miles is done. Even if he were healthy and able to play, he's a cancer and an underachiever. </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>Houston and Cleveland</div>Cleveland is severely hampered by their front office. Adding Scola gives Houston a shot, but they also have a poor front office. </div></p> Jerry Krause won six rings.</p>
[quote name='CelticBalla32'][quote name='peg182'][quote name='CelticBalla32'][quote name='RaptorFan#1'][quote name='CelticBalla32'] Why are people mentioning the Hawks? Atlanta's owners won't even allow them to go over the cap, you think they'll do enough to produce a dynasty? Come on now.</p> I have to go with Portland, if it's gonna happen within the next 10 years or so. They have a potential dominant center who anchors the defensive side of things, a potential All-Star guard in Brandon Roy, great coach in Nate McMillan, LaMarcus Aldridge looks to have an excellent future ahead of him, they have some solid young guards, Webster has some potential, and they will have some cap space in a couple years to go out and bring in a big-time free agent. If it's gonna happen, my pick would be Portland.</p> EDIT: RF#1, did you just mention Ime Udoka as part of Portland's "core?" Wow, you Raptors fans overrate marginal NBA players. Delfino, Baston, now Udoka? I know Udoka did a very solid job last year when he was the only reasonable option at the 3, but come on now. </p> [/QUOTE]He is their ONLY option at the 3, he has to be overrated. Out of those 3 they dont really have anyone, and he was part of the rotation last year.[/QUOTE]</p> Just because he was the only real option at the 3 last year doesn't mean he's part of the core. I don't know if you understand what that means if you think that. He may not even be back this season, if he was part of "the core," he'd have been re-signed by now. He may come back, but he's nowhere near a core player.</p> Also, they won't have any other option? Ever heard of Martell Webster? He really wasn't ready for big minutes last year, and he'll be weened into the lineup this year, but he's clearly in their future plans. Whether they lose Ime figgen Udoka or not, it really won't affect them. </p> [/QUOTE]you guys forget about travis outlaw and darius miles, both small forwards?[/QUOTE]</p> Outlaw could possibly be part of "the core," but he's a career backup. Miles is done. Even if he were healthy and able to play, he's a cancer and an underachiever. </p>[/QUOTE]Actually I think they will move Webster sometime this year around the trade deadline, possibly in a package with Jack. They see Sergio as the future PG, and surprisingly the coach and GM both love Outlaw. So I'd expect Outlaw to play a lot more this year than Webster.
I would have to say Portland, and if my guys dump McFail and get a few more peices maybe the Wolves as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>Houston and Cleveland</div>Cleveland is severely hampered by their front office. Adding Scola gives Houston a shot, but they also have a poor front office. </div></p> Jerry Krause won six rings. </p></div>As big of an idiot as Krause was for letting his ego get in his way and blowing up the Bulls, he was a fine GM. The Cavs don't know how to add guys like Rodman, Harper and Kerr.
</p> i really dont think there are any teams right now that have enough to become a dynasty. But if i had to pick one, it would be the blazers And its not about greg oden either. Lamarcus aldridge is going to be a MONSTER this year, watch out. But it will take a couple years before they become contenders.</p> </p>
Blazers are my potential front runners. With the core they have and the bench behind it, the Blazers potential is a kick above b/c of the front court that has proven itself more than Chandler/Curry b/c of their college experience. Plus, Aldridge is about to blow up.
Yeah, Krause really didn't do anything different than Paxson did. He did the regular team building route to NBA success. Stack young talent (Artest/Brand/Fizer/Crawford), create cap space , and go sign a free agent. The problem was that 1. Duncan turned them down....and the big one was T-Mac turning them down for Orlando. All they got was Miller/Mercer. So then they entered rebuild #2 around Curry/Chandler....that may have worked if Jay Williams didn't get injured, but obviously he got injured. </p> I can't see Portland being a dynasty. One, I don't think Oden will be that good. And even if he did pan out to be a very good player, him, Aldridge, and Roy are all injury prone, so they just physically won't be able to stay healthy enough to be a dynasty. </p>
Utah, Portland, Raptors have the potential to be the best teams in the league. Utah is almost there, especially when you consider that they beat the Rockets and Warriors in the playoffs. Portland already has some great building pieces in Oden, Aldridge, Blake, Roy, and Frye. Raptors are deep and Bosh improves every season. That and they have a potentially deadly/ allstar esqe frontcourt in Bosh and Bargnani.
