What is Bryan Colangelo's next move?

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  1. Arrpy

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    What do you expect BC to do next. Do you expect him to make a big trade or a little trade, sign a player, or simply do nothing.</p>

    If you expect him to do a trade, what players do you expect him to trade.</p>

    If you expect him to sign some one, who would it be?</p>

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    If BC does make a trade, I would expect him to trade Jose Calderon. Right now, he is the most tradeable piece. Many teams want him, and willing to give up some good players for him.</p>

    Some other players we are looking to shop are Juan Dixon,Joey Graham,. These player could be just fill in's to trades.</p>

    Juan Dixon doesn't have that much trade value, and neither does Joey Graham.</p>

    If we did trade Jose Calderon, and added some fillin's, I would ecpect to trade for a SF, as in Josh Childress, James Posey, Etc.</p>

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    Thoughts?</p>
     
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    Kris Humphries, Luke Jackson and Roko Ukic are also some tradable pieces...
     
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    shookem Still not a bust

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    What do you expect BC to do next. Do you expect him to make a big trade or a little trade, sign a player, or simply do nothing.</p>

    If you expect him to do a trade, what players do you expect him to trade.</p>

    If you expect him to sign some one, who would it be?</p>

    </p>

    If BC does make a trade, I would expect him to trade Jose Calderon. Right now, he is the most tradeable piece. Many teams want him, and willing to give up some good players for him.</p>

    Some other players we are looking to shop are Juan Dixon,Joey Graham,. These player could be just fill in's to trades. </p>

    Juan Dixon doesn't have that much trade value, and neither does Joey Graham.</p>

    If we did trade Jose Calderon, and added some fillin's, I would ecpect to trade for a SF, as in Josh Childress, James Posey, Etc.</p>

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    Thoughts? </p>

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    Such as? Links? There was a rumour about the Hawks willing to make an offer over a month ago but what has been reported since.</p>

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    No doubt he is the ace up BC's sleeve but to say he is on his way out because teams are lining up to surrender top talent for him is very wrong.</p>
     
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    I really dont want to trade Calderon and I hope he can sign an extension before he becomes a FA. That being said I think if Colangelo were to make some kind of trade it would involve either Graham, Dixon, Humphries and Rasho and maybe a couple of picks.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shookem)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    What do you expect BC to do next. Do you expect him to make a big trade or a little trade, sign a player, or simply do nothing.</p>

    If you expect him to do a trade, what players do you expect him to trade.</p>

    If you expect him to sign some one, who would it be?</p>

    </p>

    If BC does make a trade, I would expect him to trade Jose Calderon. Right now, he is the most tradeable piece. Many teams want him, and willing to give up some good players for him.</p>

    Some other players we are looking to shop are Juan Dixon,Joey Graham,. These player could be just fill in's to trades. </p>

    Juan Dixon doesn't have that much trade value, and neither does Joey Graham.</p>

    If we did trade Jose Calderon, and added some fillin's, I would ecpect to trade for a SF, as in Josh Childress, James Posey, Etc.</p>

    </p>

    Thoughts? </p>

    </div></p>

    </p>

    Such as? Links? There was a rumour about the Hawks willing to make an offer over a month ago but what has been reported since.</p>

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    No doubt he is the ace up BC's sleeve but to say he is on his way out because teams are lining up to surrender top talent for him is very wrong. </p>

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    Im not saying that he's on his way out, IM just saying he is our most tradeable piece. IF we did trade someone, it would probably be him...and Im not saying teams will trade top talent either, Im saying that we could get a nice role player for Jose and some fill in's...</p>
     
  6. shookem

    shookem Still not a bust

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    Ok.</p>

    Hopefully BC waits to see what this team needs the most before dealing Jose. Delf and Kapp could really change the structure of this team. </p>
     
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    TucsonClip Thursday Night in Tucson = Upset

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    Well I am not sure it happens this year, but I see a big move on the horizon. The system works great, but Bosh needs another star to play with in order to advance in the playoffs.
     
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    shookem Still not a bust

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TucsonClip)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well I am not sure it happens this year, but I see a big move on the horizon. The system works great, but Bosh needs another star to play with in order to advance in the playoffs.</div></p>

    The Raps are lucky in that they don't need to deliver that second superstar player now. They can sit on this team for a bit and see what Bargnani and Ford become. Considering that including Bosh, all three are locked in for the next three years and all three are 24 or younger these guys are just barely reaching their prime I don't think BC should rush to get a second star. I agree that in the short term it may hamper the teams chances in the postseason but think we need to give this group of guys another chance to get it done.</p>

    Having said that I don't think BC would turn down a chance to make this team better.</p>
     
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    For some reason im really nervous about Calderon's future on the Raptors. I have a feeling like this will be his last season with the team and that if he doesnt gets enough minutes he will sign with a different team and our 2 PG platoon will be gone. Hopefully I am wrong but does anyone else feel the same way? That having Ford and Calderon split minutes for years to come is a not realistic??
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely)</div><div class='quotemain'>For some reason im really nervous about Calderon's future on the Raptors. I have a feeling like this will be his last season with the team and that if he doesnt gets enough minutes he will sign with a different team and our 2 PG platoon will be gone. Hopefully I am wrong but does anyone else feel the same way? That having Ford and Calderon split minutes for years to come is a not realistic??</div></p>

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    I can't see Calderon not signing back to the Raps. The only way I see him leaving is in a trade...</p>
     
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    shookem Still not a bust

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    Hmm. In my heart of hearts I can't see the dual PG thing happening much longer.</p>

    Give TJ another year, see if he can do 33 mpg for 82 games and how he responds because if he does well, there's probably better places to spend money than on a backup 1.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    I can't see Calderon not signing back to the Raps. The only way I see him leaving is in a trade... </p>

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    The only place I can see Calderon playingis Toronto, Memphis or for the Spanish national team. I doubt however that he would go to Memphis now that they have Navarro because it would pretty much be the same situation he is in right now playing the backup PG role.</p>

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  13. zєяσ

    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    Not a Rap fan but I think they need to trade Ford for another pg
     
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    pegs My future wife.

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    they def. need another shooter </p>

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    seriously, now, they should trade for a lock-down wing defender. or sign one, if there's one available. </p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'>Not a Rap fan but I think they need to trade Ford for another pg</div></p>

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    Why?</p>
     
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    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    Well before any big move is made, don't the Raps need more time to see how to best utilize Bargnani and Bosh at the same time? Not just any front court player could mesh with those two considering their strengths and weaknesses.
     
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    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'>Not a Rap fan but I think they need to trade Ford for another pg</div></p>

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    Why? </p></div>

    Even though he is a pg tailored made for a fastbreak offense like the Raps have, his weaknesses were out in full display during the playoffs. He cant shoot, plays average defense at best, and when he is on the fast break he doesnt look for his teammates first most of the time like some other effective fastbreak point guards(ala:Nash, Kidd, even Ridnour to an extent). If you ask me, a pg like Ridnour or Paul is more suited for the Raps offense. Calderon, imo, is a better player and pg than Ford. In the playoffs, i saw Ford had the talent but not everything right in the head. But again, thats just my opinion on Ford, and I think the Raps could do better with another starting pg. </p>
     
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    shookem Still not a bust

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'>Not a Rap fan but I think they need to trade Ford for another pg</div></p>

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    Why? </p></div>

    Even though he is a pg tailored made for a fastbreak offense like the Raps have, his weaknesses were out in full display during the playoffs. He cant shoot, plays average defense at best, and when he is on the fast break he doesnt look for his teammates first most of the time like some other effective fastbreak point guards(ala:Nash, Kidd, even Ridnour to an extent). If you ask me, a pg like Ridnour or Paul is more suited for the Raps offense. Calderon, imo, is a better player and pg than Ford. In the playoffs, i saw Ford had the talent but not everything right in the head. But again, thats just my opinion on Ford, and I think the Raps could do better with another starting pg. </p>

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    The thing with TJ in last year's playoffs was that he played badly when the Raps won and Jose stepped up. But Ford actually shot well in that series (48.7 FG, 50 3PG).</p>

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    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    [quote name='Shookem'][quote name='L'][quote name='Arrpy']

    [quote name='L']Not a Rap fan but I think they need to trade Ford for another pg[/QUOTE]</p>

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    Why? </p>[/QUOTE]

    Even though he is a pg tailored made for a fastbreak offense like the Raps have, his weaknesses were out in full display during the playoffs. He cant shoot, plays average defense at best, and when he is on the fast break he doesnt look for his teammates first most of the time like some other effective fastbreak point guards(ala:Nash, Kidd, even Ridnour to an extent). If you ask me, a pg like Ridnour or Paul is more suited for the Raps offense. Calderon, imo, is a better player and pg than Ford. In the playoffs, i saw Ford had the talent but not everything right in the head. But again, thats just my opinion on Ford, and I think the Raps could do better with another starting pg. </p>

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    The thing with TJ in last year's playoffs was that he played badly when the Raps won and Jose stepped up. But Ford actually shot well in that series (48.7 FG, 50 3PG).</p>

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    Good eye. I didnt catch that. But what i meant concerning TJ's shooting is that he doesnt have good range on his shot, and he got such good numbers in those playoffs because the nets were concentrating their defense on Bosh(and Kidd cant guard quick guys like Ford).</p>

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  20. shookem

    shookem Still not a bust

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    Oh, I watched every second of that series many times my friend.</p>

    Ultimately, I think just like the frontcourt court needs another year before we really know what we got, the backcourt needs more time to play out. </p>

    Things will be different this season for the Raps but their sucess will probably still depend on their options. MoP wasn't much of an option last year so adding Kap is significant. There so be no rush to make another move until we see what the division landscape looks like during the season. </p>
     

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