NOw I'm a vikings fan and I'm glad the call went our way, but how could you award the vikings the ball on that fumble? I just don't get it... today I read that the ref admitted he was wrong. I can understand a bad call here and there, but to see a replay and still uphold a bad call... well that's beyond understanding. Why even have replay? I think the problem is that a lot of times the refs have too much pride to overturn their own calls. Someone else needs to be doing the replays besides the people who's pride is at stake. Maybe there should be a "replay official" whose entire job is to sit in the press box and be the judge for replays? What do you guys think, how can the NFL fix the replay system besides abandoning it?
That sounds reasonable. And I think the official that makes a bad call should be fined. That gives them more incentive to be right. Who would fine them? The NFL should have a committee for replay after the games. If they review a call that should have been upheld or overturned an was handled poorly, they should be able to assess fines. Maybe the refs would be more careful about their calls and then it would be about more than just pride.
The rules of replay are very restrictive, and they are not meant to get call right all the time. They state that you need undisputable evidence to overturn a call....so you cant fine a ref for not overturning a close call if he didnt have undisputable evidence, even if the overturn was the right thing to do....That call against the Chiefs was bad, but it coulnt be overturned because the fault of the viking was rule violations and you can not add penalties while reviewing a play(2 fouls occured on the play, one was illigel toughing for sending the ball in touch through a batting motion, thats illegel, the 2nd was illegal touching for being the 1st player to touch a fumbled ball after being out of bounds, yeah thats right, one player commited the same penalty twice in one instance)
But maybe that should be amended. It's the right call now, but in the future, who wants bad calls to effect a game? I know I don't.
I believe that call against the Chiefs played a big part in the outcome of that game at the Metrodome. The score was only 7-0 Vikes at the time. That bad call gave the Vikings the ball and what turned out to be anther Culpepper to Moss TD and a 14-0 lead in a sold out home Dome. It was HUGE.
Yeah, I agree. We got whipped pretty hard anyway, but in the 3rd qtr when we got some momentum with Holmes and pulled back to 20-31 they did it again calling a Gonzalez catch at the goalline out of bounds. I felt like the Refs wouldn't allow any momentum to flow our way. But hey. No excuses, our defense gave that one away for us anyway. I just hate to see those calls.
Well to be fair, when the Vikes got the ball back they ended up punting, not scoring. I also think they need to do something about the play being "blown dead." That's rediculous. I agree that they can't really call a penalty on a review, otherwise you could most likely find a holding penalty on every single review!
The Blown dead thing will never go away....it cant...when the whistle blows, smart players stop playing, they know the play is dead
They should make me an official. Right when it happened I was yelling "Dead Ball!" KC Ball! Oh well... Can you tell I wanted the Vikings to lose? I wonder why?
The fumble recovery in the Vikes-Chiefs game was bad...and it wasn't as if it wasn't obvious. There were TWO illegal touches by the Vikings on that play. When the ball was knocked out of his hands there was an obvious intentional extra touch while the vikings player was out of bounds. Plus, Brian Russell, who recoverd the fumble, stepped out of bounds before he fell on the ball...that's the second illegal touch. I have no idea how the ref missed both. It was a momentum changing play...it stopped a good drive by the chiefs.
The NFL has obviously gone back to recruiting officials from the WWE. KC should just be happy that no Chiefs were assaulted with folding chairs.
I love the block in the back rules on kickoff and punt returns... I can understand no blocking below the waist and no crackback blocks, but sometimes the most minor push puts a team inside their own five yard line. Madden was saying last night "in the old days, that was just a good block." *laughs* Bring back the old days!
the only bad call that i think every one would agree with me is the call where there was no call the play on which about 5 seconds after the play was over donovan mcnabb got hit in the back
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Can anyone name my Favorite rule? OHHHHHH ya the Tuck Rule. hehe that's all I have to say.</div> I still dont understand why that play just wasnt ruled inconclusive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T.Oforphil81)</div><div class='quotemain'>the only bad call that i think every one would agree with me is the call where there was no call the play on which about 5 seconds after the play was over donovan mcnabb got hit in the back</div> dude...i hate to admit it...man it kills me, but after seein that play over 100 times, i dont think there was a whistle, but there definitley should have been...
E4L, I hear ya....that was just a crazy game...I mean a 45 yarder in a blizzard without MR. Henderson straight out of prision driving the plow. Unheard of.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>E4L, I hear ya....that was just a crazy game...I mean a 45 yarder in a blizzard without MR. Henderson straight out of prision driving the plow. Unheard of.</div> Ah yes, the snowplow FG. That belongs in the memories thread too.
