Listening to Bill Walton on the Tim Donaghy situation. </p> The other referees are worried about what Donaghy is going to say. </p> Stern's response, "Why would anyone believe anything that Tim Donaghy says?"</p> What, since when did Tim lie? He may have broken the integrity of the game, but since when is he a liar?</p> This is absolutely pathetic, no different than Selig turning his back against the steroids issue in baseball back during the juiced era. There is an obvious problem with these referees. They should be fired for breaking the rules (just like Amare was suspended because of the letter of the law, ignoring the specefic circumstances). He is turning his back on it because he doesn't want to deal with it. He is just going to ignore everything Tim Donaghy says. </p> Tim Donaghy will, most likely name other referees now that were involved in betting on games. David Stern has his little lawyer on the job, who is going to turn up nothing, and Stern is just going to claim that Donaghy was lying. </p> Absolutely ridiculous. David Stern is breaching the integrity of the game. Eddie Griffin might have gotten killed as part of David Stern's little gambling ring, and he is just going to sit there on his ass like this. He needs to be fired ASAP. </p>
He has done nothing for the NBA, just held it back from becoming even bigger. </p> We can thank the stars of the league, as for stern it would be nothing but crap.</p> </p> FIRE STERN!!!!! </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Premier)</div><div class='quotemain'>No.</div> Insightful and well thought out.</p>
donaghy has reason to lie. if he gives out names of refs, he could get a reduced sentence. am i correct?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'> He has done nothing for the NBA, just held it back from becoming even bigger. </p></div> </p> </p> That's a ridiculous statement. Stern has done wonders marketing the NBA around the world.</p>
How about we wait to see what he actually does instead of freaking out over our own (your own) speculation?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'>How about we wait to see what he actually does instead of freaking out over our own (your own) speculation?</div></p> I don't know if I think he should be fired, but that's a cringe-worthy quote from Stern. This is a guy who's come down like a ton of bricks on everyone who ever thought about gambling, and pushed hard for the tight restrictions that are now in place. If he blows it off to save the embarrassment of having to can these guys.... well, that'll be a major embarrassment too. </p> </p>
David Stern played a huge role in main-streaming the NBA, not only in America but around the world. The WNBA, the D-league, the players union were all his ideas, let it go about him being fired there's no way he could have forseen the ref's being involved in gambling.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class="inside-copy">LOS ANGELES — NBA officials say casual gambling exists among their ranks, but at the National Basketball Referees Foundation Conference this weekend, their main concern was that Tim Donaghy would exaggerate the extent of the gambling.</div> <p class="inside-copy">One veteran referee at the conference, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the collective bargaining agreement prohibits officials from talking to the media without the NBA's permission, said the topic of private discussions this weekend among the referees was that Donaghy would try to better his situation at their expense.</p> <p class="inside-copy">Gambling other than at a racetrack in the offseason is a violation of NBA rules for referees. <font size="4">Commissioner David Stern said Sunday that the referees need not worry about repercussions from Donaghy's accusations.</font></p> <p class="inside-copy"><font size="4">"Why would we believe anything he says?" Stern said. "What we're going to do is give all 60 referees a chance to give us information about their activities, while legal, that violate our rules."</font></p> <p class="inside-copy">Donaghy, an NBA referee for 13 years, has pleaded guilty to two felony gambling charges, including betting on games he officiated. He has said he will name at least 20 other referees who were involved in gambling activities. </p><p class="inside-copy">"There is some gambling, but it's minimal," said Lamell McMorris, spokesman for the referees' union. "Frankly, I'd say minimal to none."</p> <p class="inside-copy">The veteran official said while casual bets such as office pools are prevalent among referees, it is nearly impossible to say how many referees played a slot machine when there are training camps, summer league games and USA Basketball games in Las Vegas.</p> <p class="inside-copy">John Lauro, Donaghy's attorney, Sunday declined to address concerns raised by the other referees.</div></p><p class="inside-copy">http://www.usatoday.com/community/utils/idmap/29593944.story</p><p class="inside-copy">Its now at least 20 other referees. </p><p class="inside-copy">This is ridiculous what Stern is doing. HE HAS TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW. He should be fired for not doing so. </p><p class="inside-copy"></p>
I don't hate Stern.</p> I was in support of him suspending Amare. </p> What I do have problem with is his lack of consistency. If your going to follow the letter of the law there, follow it here.</p> Stop flip flopping.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'> Stop flip flopping. </p></div> </p> Shakira, Avril. Shakira, Avril. Shakira, Avirl.</p> </p> GUILTY!</p>
This is very simple. Stern is saying he isn't going to use the words from Donaghy's mouth to punish other refs nor should he without corroborating evidence </p> Nowhere does it say Stern won't follow the NBA rules. This thread is less logical than the witch trial in The Holy Grail</p>
To be fair, as good as Stern's been for the league, you have to give some credit to Magic and Bird and Dr. J and Jordan. As far as this situation goes, Stern is looking like a politician on the ropes and he's not coming across very well. When it really appears that several referees and even players and coaches may be involved in this mess, we had Stern saying things like "this is an isolated incident" and that kind of thing. The denial doesn't look good, and it doesn't lead people to believe in the guy as things progress.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'> He has done nothing for the NBA, just held it back from becoming even bigger. </p> We can thank the stars of the league, as for stern it would be nothing but crap.</p> </p> FIRE STERN!!!!! </p></div> Youneed a history lesson on the NBA, WNBA, international basketball, and Olympic basketball.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> <div class="inside-copy"><font size="4">"Why would we believe anything he says?" Stern said. "What we're going to do is give all 60 referees a chance to give us information about their activities, while legal, that violate our rules."</font></div></div><p class="inside-copy">Its now at least 20 other referees. </p><p class="inside-copy">This is ridiculous what Stern is doing. HE HAS TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW. He should be fired for not doing so. </div> </p><p class="inside-copy">Why is it rediculous? This is exactly what many are proposing Bud Selig do with steroid use in MLB.</p> </p>
David Stern should follow the LETTER OF THE LAW and fire these guys without collecting evidence first. wait, what?
