David Haugh again:</p> http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines</p> <font color="#0000ff"> Fair enough. If you accept all that, coach Lovie Smith has more to gain than to lose by making a move for that game only that would make sense for the long-term preparedness of the Bears. Start Brian Griese. Start Griese at quarterback for the preseason finale, but make clear that it doesn't mean he's any closer to starting a regular-season game or pushing Grossman. Replacing Grossman with Griese for real remains a flawed idea no matter how many have raced to be first with the suggestion over the last week. But start Griese in the comfortable Soldier Field environs to see how he performs behind the No. 1 offensive line and a corps of receivers who aren't fighting for roster spots. Starting Griese would not create a public debate about who should play quarterback for the Bears, a debate Smith prefers to avoid. But it had already begun by the time Grossman's first fumbled snap hit the ground at the RCA Dome. It won't end based on anything he might do against the Browns.</font></p> <font color="#0000ff"> Starting Griese would be subtle and smart ... </font></p> Man, that's some prescription strength LOL material there. I mean jeez... where do you begin with this. This guy is gonna eclipse dumb ass Skip Bayless as the biggest moonbat in the history of the Chicago Tribune's sports section any minute.</p>
I think the Bears ought to start Griese, too. I thought they should have started him last year as well.</p> My feeling is that the Bears really need to control the ball on offense and not give opponents good ball position via turnovers. The bears defense is so good, all the QB needs to do is hand off almost every play and let the games be won.</p> If we're concerned about Grossman's confidence being hurt, it can't be helped by getting sacked and fumbling or throwing INT for TD every game.</p> I didn't think then, and still don't believe, that Grossman should be benched. Rather that he gets a chance to watch the game run by a solid veteran QB who gets it for a game or three from the sideline.</p> </p>
You can't sweet talk your way around benching a guy. If he's sitting and watching, he's sitting and watching </p> I see where you're coming from, but I really hate the play not to lose philosophy on defense. My take is Grossman won several games too. </p> But the real fly in that ointment is this is Chicago we're talking about. You put Griese out there for a few games and David Haugh will be not creating a public debate about the QB position on a daily basis. </p>
Its crazy. Grossman is the man! He took a team to the super in his first full year starting!! You would have to be crazy to go with another guy. Grossman is going to be the most prolific passer in the history of the chicago bears.
Playing grossman IS playing to lose. He'll cough up a fumble or throw an INT for TD, which nullifies the strength of the team, which is defense.</p> The team is so good (on defense), Ortmeyer could QB it to the superbowl, sheesh.</p> The 85 bears had a QB who "got it." He had the mentality of a defensive lineman and played within the concept of what would win for the team. With grossman, you just don't know what next bad thing he's going to do.</p> It's not that he doesn't have the talent, he needs to stop trying to throw the fastball 120 MPH and take something off and still throw it 110 MPH with accuracy. If you know what I mean (worked for Koufax).</p> Problem is, he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. He's not learning by playing. Thus I suggest we try something else; another way to learn is by watching Griese, the savvy seasoned vet who surely does "get it." It's not a competition between our offense and defense to see who can win the games.</p> </p> </p>
The fans and media in Chicago are going to ruin a guy that has world class potential in Rex Grossman....hes the only QB in the NFL that isnt allowed to make a mistake during a football game....Grossman should start because he can make all the throws(only about a dozen QBs in the league can)....he also makes solid decisions....when he gets in trouble, its because his mechanics break down....its all very correctable....he has the swagger to be great, he has the arm to be great, he has the mind to be great....if he can eliminate throwing off his back foot while bailing on throws, he will be a 30td, 10int guy and the Bears will be headed to Zona in February....Griese is a journeyman who is an excellent backup, but he isnt the answer as a starter....stick with your guy Bears....stick with your guy </p>
Will not throwing off his back foot solve his fumlbing problem?</p> </p> "hes the only QB in the NFL that isnt allowed to make a mistake during a football game"</p> </p> See Manning, Elisha</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'>With that defense, you don't need a gunslinger.</div></p> The number of teams that don't need to be as good as they possibly can in every area they possibly can is 0. </p> I think what Beefy says is totally on the money. </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'>With that defense, you don't need a gunslinger.</div></p> The number of teams that don't need to be as good as they possibly can in every area they possibly can is 0. </p> I think what Beefy says is totally on the money. </p> </p> </div> By gunslinger I mean someone with a cannon.</p> I think the Bears would rather have someone with better accuracy and mechanics.</p>
When's it ever ill advised to whip out a gun? </p> Seriously though... I think Chicago's a poisonous town for QBs... the backup is always a hype hero, and Griese is another guy in that line. He's not exactly done much to show himself worthy of such high praise.</p>
unless you have a true star QB, the most popular guy in a city is the backup....the grass is rarely greener
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'> Gunslinger is likely to whip out that gun and use it when ill advised, too.</p> </p> </div> </p> (see Croyle, Brodie)</p> </p>
This is certainly true (except in DC this season, where everyone wants to break Mark Brunell's legs to cut off the temptation for Gibbs to bench Jason Campbell and start his boy), but Chicago's got a serious pathology regarding QBs. This city chews them up and spits them out. It's probably already responsible for much of the hysteria (and probably some of the performance) surrounding Grossman.
Kramer was passable. Jim Miller was pretty good for the 5 out of a couple hundred games he was healthy and allowed to play in.
